Re: What's a better error code than 554 to get a sending server to stop retrying?

2017-07-26 Thread robgane
> Any 5xx code is supposed to say that That's clear now that's how it's supposed to work. > Whether the recipient of the remote site's resulting bounce message is paying > attention is another matter. That's the actual problem here I think. > You're now down to something like Kevin McGrail's

Re: What's a better error code than 554 to get a sending server to stop retrying?

2017-07-26 Thread Kris Deugau
robg...@nospammail.net wrote: I have a milter set up to REJECT on some body content. It works like it should and REJECTS with the message Jul 25 14:41:13 mariner postfix/handoff/smtpd[56542]: proxy-reject: END-OF-MESSAGE: 554 5.7.1 id=12969-07 - Rejected by next-hop MTA on relaying, fr

Re: What's a better error code than 554 to get a sending server to stop retrying?

2017-07-25 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 7/25/2017 7:42 PM, /dev/rob0 wrote: Oh, I disagree. The best thing to do is to reject anything you're unwilling/unable to deliver. You're not causing any bounces; if a connecting client does generate a bounce for your rejection that is THEIR problem; or in the case of a human sender, that is

Re: What's a better error code than 554 to get a sending server to stop retrying?

2017-07-25 Thread /dev/rob0
> On 7/25/2017 5:51 PM, robg...@nospammail.net wrote: > >Depending on where I read about it that "554 5.7.1" error code > >means "failed transaction". 554 is described in RFC 5321, yes, as "failed transaction". 5.7.1 is an Extended Mail System Status Code, described in RFC 3463: https://tools.i

Re: What's a better error code than 554 to get a sending server to stop retrying?

2017-07-25 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 7/25/2017 5:51 PM, robg...@nospammail.net wrote: Depending on where I read about it that "554 5.7.1" error code means "failed transaction". Unfortunately, you might need logic to accept and silently discard. We do this, for example, with viruses to avoid blowback. Regards, KAM

Re: What's a better error code than 554 to get a sending server to stop retrying?

2017-07-25 Thread Wietse Venema
robg...@nospammail.net: > But they keep retrying to resend the email that's getting REJECTed. > Every 15mins for the past 9+ hours since the 1st message was sent > and got rejected. RFC 5321, the definition of SMTP says: 4.2.1. Reply Code Severities and Theory ... 5yz Permanent Negative Comp

What's a better error code than 554 to get a sending server to stop retrying?

2017-07-25 Thread robgane
I have a milter set up to REJECT on some body content. It works like it should and REJECTS with the message Jul 25 14:41:13 mariner postfix/handoff/smtpd[56542]: proxy-reject: END-OF-MESSAGE: 554 5.7.1 id=12969-07 - Rejected by next-hop MTA on relaying, from MTA(smtp:[127.0.0.1]:16002):