On 05/01/2016 03:32 PM, Noel Jones wrote:
have false positives. Reserve firewall blocks for persistent
offenders since debugging a firewalled false positive is far more
difficult.
And when you firewall make it short-lived.
IP addresses change, and long-lived firewall rules have unintended
On 5/1/2016 9:20 AM, jaso...@mail-central.com wrote:
> I'm clear this has been asked a gazillion times; feels like I've now read
> half the posts.
>
> For incoming mail that matches with high-confidence a known bot/mass-mailer
> restriction, is it 'best' to
>
> DISCARD or REJECT?
>
> I still
"Asking a question that doesn't meet your ... um ... standards ... is
somehow 'spreading incorrect information'?"
Have you stopped beating your wife? - Yes, a question can spread
misinformation.
I expect specific, correct, info on a mail list, and if I state something
wrong, especially with the p
jaso...@mail-central.com:
> > If you must spread incorrect information, you can do that elsewhere.
>
> Asking a question that doesn't meet your ... um ... standards ... is somehow
> 'spreading incorrect information'?
>
Saying that reject sends a bounce is incorrect.
Wietse
On Sun, May 1, 2016, at 09:34 AM, Alice Wonder wrote:
> I reduced the blacklists I use because every now and then I find my own
> servers on them when I know for a fact there was no unsolicited mail
> from them.
I'm in the same boat -- but typically want to know IF I'm on a list, especially
i
> If you must spread incorrect information, you can do that elsewhere.
Asking a question that doesn't meet your ... um ... standards ... is somehow
'spreading incorrect information'?
> I don't want incorrect information on this mailing list.
And I don't want lip & attitude from grumpy old far
Hi Alice,
On Sun, May 1, 2016, at 08:44 AM, Alice Wonder wrote:
> If the IP is on a blacklist I use, I just let the blacklist deal with it via
> reject.
Generally, I do too. TBH, it's those new-not-yet-on-a-list IPs that got my
attention on this.
> I'm somewhat conservative with the blacklis
jaso...@mail-central.com:
>
>
> On Sun, May 1, 2016, at 08:07 AM, Wietse Venema wrote:
> > > > > using REJECT does NOT accept the whole message, and sends a bounce
> > > >
> > > > No, it doesn't. Please see RFC 5321 for how SMTP works.
> > >
> > > Not the point of my question at all, but right
On 05/01/2016 07:20 AM, jaso...@mail-central.com wrote:
I'm clear this has been asked a gazillion times; feels like I've now read half
the posts.
For incoming mail that matches with high-confidence a known bot/mass-mailer
restriction, is it 'best' to
DISCARD or REJECT?
If the IP is on a
On Sun, May 1, 2016, at 08:07 AM, Wietse Venema wrote:
> > > > using REJECT does NOT accept the whole message, and sends a bounce
> > >
> > > No, it doesn't. Please see RFC 5321 for how SMTP works.
> >
> > Not the point of my question at all, but right, I used the improper term.
>
> You start
> > > using REJECT does NOT accept the whole message, and sends a bounce
> >
> > No, it doesn't. Please see RFC 5321 for how SMTP works.
>
> Not the point of my question at all, but right, I used the improper term.
You start with a false premise (reject sends a bounce), and everything
that foll
On Sun, May 1, 2016, at 07:27 AM, Wietse Venema wrote:
> jaso...@mail-central.com:
> > using REJECT does NOT accept the whole message, and sends a bounce
>
> No, it doesn't. Please see RFC 5321 for how SMTP works.
>
> Wietse
Not the point of my question at all, but right, I used the imp
jaso...@mail-central.com:
> using REJECT does NOT accept the whole message, and sends a bounce
No, it doesn't. Please see RFC 5321 for how SMTP works.
Wietse
I'm clear this has been asked a gazillion times; feels like I've now read half
the posts.
For incoming mail that matches with high-confidence a known bot/mass-mailer
restriction, is it 'best' to
DISCARD or REJECT?
I still can't convince myself of a clear answer, but am leaning to DISCARD.
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