Re: newbie check Was [Re: port 25 submission settings sanity check]

2013-08-30 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 8/30/2013 10:12 AM, Terry Gilsenan wrote: > I am not talking about implementing SMTP on UDP, I am taking about the > possibility of adding a side-channel for bulk data that would use UDP. I'm really surprised nobody has mentioned this yet. It seems there's a far simpler solution to the descr

RE: newbie check Was [Re: port 25 submission settings sanity check]

2013-08-30 Thread Terry Gilsenan
-Original Message- From: owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org [mailto:owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org] On Behalf Of Glenn English Sent: Saturday, 31 August 2013 12:52 AM To: postfix-users@postfix.org Subject: Re: newbie check Was [Re: port 25 submission settings sanity check] On Aug 30, 2013

RE: newbie check Was [Re: port 25 submission settings sanity check]

2013-08-30 Thread Terry Gilsenan
-Original Message- From: owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org [mailto:owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org] On Behalf Of Glenn English Sent: Saturday, 31 August 2013 12:52 AM To: postfix-users@postfix.org Subject: Re: newbie check Was [Re: port 25 submission settings sanity check] On Aug 30, 2013

RE: newbie check Was [Re: port 25 submission settings sanity check]

2013-08-30 Thread Terry Gilsenan
-Original Message- From: owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org [mailto:owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org] On Behalf Of Jan P. Kessler Sent: Saturday, 31 August 2013 12:21 AM To: postfix-users@postfix.org Subject: Re: newbie check Was [Re: port 25 submission settings sanity check] >&

Re: newbie check Was [Re: port 25 submission settings sanity check]

2013-08-30 Thread Glenn English
On Aug 30, 2013, at 7:07 AM, Terry Gilsenan wrote: > As attachments get larger, and end users use email rather than ftp for file > transfer for convenience sake, a UDP implementation, perhaps using UDP as a > data streaming channel could become a very useful configuration, and the > transfer s

Re: newbie check Was [Re: port 25 submission settings sanity check]

2013-08-30 Thread Jan P. Kessler
As attachments get larger, and end users use email rather than ftp for file transfer for convenience sake, a UDP implementation, perhaps using UDP as a data streaming channel could become a very useful configuration, and the transfer speed over high latency links (think satellite etc) could i

RE: newbie check Was [Re: port 25 submission settings sanity check]

2013-08-30 Thread Terry Gilsenan
) could improve immensely. T -Original Message- From: owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org [mailto:owner-postfix-us...@postfix.org] On Behalf Of Peter Sent: Friday, 30 August 2013 12:15 PM To: postfix-users@postfix.org Subject: Re: newbie check Was [Re: port 25 submission settings sanity check

Re: newbie check Was [Re: port 25 submission settings sanity check]

2013-08-29 Thread Peter
On 08/30/2013 02:49 PM, John Levine wrote: > >>> submission 587/udp > > I've been doing this for a long time, and I've never seen anyone try > to do SMTP over anything other than TCP. You'll see this for a lot of services in the file. The old practice was for IANA to assign both tcp and ud

Re: newbie check Was [Re: port 25 submission settings sanity check]

2013-08-29 Thread John Levine
>> submission 587/udp I've been doing this for a long time, and I've never seen anyone try to do SMTP over anything other than TCP. Regards, John Levine, postmas...@cauce.org, CAUCE postmaster http://www.cauce.org

Re: newbie check Was [Re: port 25 submission settings sanity check]

2013-08-29 Thread Peter
On 08/30/2013 08:53 AM, Terry Gilsenan wrote: > There are no MTAs that accept submission on UDP, yet, so maybe reserved > for future use? No, it's just the assignment from IANA. In the past when either a TCP or UDP port assignment was requested both were assigned, this does not mean that there is

Re: newbie check Was [Re: port 25 submission settings sanity check]

2013-08-29 Thread Noel Jones
On 8/29/2013 3:43 PM, Glenn English wrote: > > On Aug 29, 2013, at 2:18 PM, LuKreme wrote: > >> $ grep 587 /etc/services >> submission 587/tcp >> submission 587/udp > > That's what mine says too. Does Postfix accept UDP submissions? > > I looked at RFC6409 (the newest I could find on

RE: newbie check Was [Re: port 25 submission settings sanity check]

2013-08-29 Thread Terry Gilsenan
heck Was [Re: port 25 submission settings sanity check] On Aug 29, 2013, at 2:18 PM, LuKreme wrote: > $ grep 587 /etc/services > submission 587/tcp > submission 587/udp That's what mine says too. Does Postfix accept UDP submissions? I looked at RFC6409 (the newest I coul

Re: newbie check Was [Re: port 25 submission settings sanity check]

2013-08-29 Thread Glenn English
On Aug 29, 2013, at 2:18 PM, LuKreme wrote: > $ grep 587 /etc/services > submission 587/tcp > submission 587/udp That's what mine says too. Does Postfix accept UDP submissions? I looked at RFC6409 (the newest I could find on 587), and all it said was "port 587" -- the protocol isn't

Re: newbie check Was [Re: port 25 submission settings sanity check]

2013-08-29 Thread LuKreme
On 29 Aug 2013, at 13:34 , Glenn English wrote: > > On Aug 29, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote: > >> --On Thursday, August 29, 2013 3:59 PM +0900 peter evans >> wrote: >> >> >>> Combine these two into one. put permit_sasl_ at the top >>> as it is a first match wins thi

Re: newbie check Was [Re: port 25 submission settings sanity check]

2013-08-29 Thread Glenn English
On Aug 29, 2013, at 1:37 PM, li...@rhsoft.net wrote: > > > Am 29.08.2013 21:34, schrieb Glenn English: >> I'm under the impression that 587 is to be used by my local users >> (email clients to local MTA), and 25 is used by MTA<->MTA. Is this wrong? > > correct > >> And /etc/services says: >>

Re: newbie check Was [Re: port 25 submission settings sanity check]

2013-08-29 Thread li...@rhsoft.net
Am 29.08.2013 21:34, schrieb Glenn English: > I'm under the impression that 587 is to be used by my local users > (email clients to local MTA), and 25 is used by MTA<->MTA. Is this wrong? correct > And /etc/services says: > >> auth 113/tcp authentication tap ident > > not 587

newbie check Was [Re: port 25 submission settings sanity check]

2013-08-29 Thread Glenn English
On Aug 29, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Quanah Gibson-Mount wrote: > --On Thursday, August 29, 2013 3:59 PM +0900 peter evans wrote: > > >> Combine these two into one. put permit_sasl_ at the top >> as it is a first match wins thing. And of course, re-educate >> your client that auth belo