Re: set envelope sender = sasl authenticated user ?

2010-09-08 Thread mouss
Le 08/09/2010 10:44, Jan-Frode Myklebust a écrit : On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 06:38:15PM -0500, Noel Jones wrote: If you have customers sending large amounts of abusive mail, seems as if there would be better ways to deal with that eg. sender quotas, monitoring of undeliverable mail, inbound spam/

Re: set envelope sender = sasl authenticated user ?

2010-09-08 Thread mouss
Le 07/09/2010 23:36, Jan-Frode Myklebust a écrit : On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 08:20:36PM +0200, Jeroen Geilman wrote: On 09/07/2010 06:57 PM, mouss wrote: OP is an ISP providing outbound relay to residential users. his problem is not easy to solve. Thanks for understanding. I´ve gotten informat

Re: set envelope sender = sasl authenticated user ?

2010-09-08 Thread Frank Doege
On 09/08/2010 12:36 AM, Jan-Frode Myklebust wrote: On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 08:20:36PM +0200, Jeroen Geilman wrote: On 09/07/2010 06:57 PM, mouss wrote: OP is an ISP providing outbound relay to residential users. his problem is not easy to solve. Thanks for understanding. I´ve gotten informa

Re: set envelope sender = sasl authenticated user ?

2010-09-08 Thread Mikael Bak
Jan-Frode Myklebust wrote: > >> and I still fail to understand how controlling your customers >> envelope sender will help with backscatterer.org. > > It will make sure that when viruses/malware on the customers computer is > sending out spam from fake addresses, the bounces goes back to the > cu

Re: set envelope sender = sasl authenticated user ?

2010-09-08 Thread Jan-Frode Myklebust
On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 06:38:15PM -0500, Noel Jones wrote: > If you have customers sending large amounts of abusive mail, seems > as if there would be better ways to deal with that eg. sender > quotas, monitoring of undeliverable mail, inbound spam/virus > scanning, etc. But I'm not an ISP; I can

Re: set envelope sender = sasl authenticated user ?

2010-09-07 Thread Noel Jones
On 9/7/2010 4:36 PM, Jan-Frode Myklebust wrote: On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 08:20:36PM +0200, Jeroen Geilman wrote: On 09/07/2010 06:57 PM, mouss wrote: OP is an ISP providing outbound relay to residential users. his problem is not easy to solve. Thanks for understanding. I´ve gotten informatio

Re: set envelope sender = sasl authenticated user ?

2010-09-07 Thread Jan-Frode Myklebust
On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 08:20:36PM +0200, Jeroen Geilman wrote: > On 09/07/2010 06:57 PM, mouss wrote: > > > >OP is an ISP providing outbound relay to residential users. his > >problem is not easy to solve. > > Thanks for understanding. I´ve gotten information off list that gmail are setting the s

Re: set envelope sender = sasl authenticated user ?

2010-09-07 Thread Jeroen Geilman
On 09/07/2010 06:57 PM, mouss wrote: Le 07/09/2010 16:17, Noel Jones a écrit : On 9/7/2010 2:32 AM, Jan-Frode Myklebust wrote: On Mon, Sep 06, 2010 at 06:29:28PM -0500, Noel Jones wrote: I fail to see how controlling your users From: addresses will affect a backscatterer.org listing. I'm t

Re: set envelope sender = sasl authenticated user ?

2010-09-07 Thread mouss
Le 07/09/2010 16:17, Noel Jones a écrit : On 9/7/2010 2:32 AM, Jan-Frode Myklebust wrote: On Mon, Sep 06, 2010 at 06:29:28PM -0500, Noel Jones wrote: I fail to see how controlling your users From: addresses will affect a backscatterer.org listing. I'm thinking we can accept sending some bac

Re: set envelope sender = sasl authenticated user ?

2010-09-07 Thread Noel Jones
On 9/7/2010 2:32 AM, Jan-Frode Myklebust wrote: On Mon, Sep 06, 2010 at 06:29:28PM -0500, Noel Jones wrote: I fail to see how controlling your users From: addresses will affect a backscatterer.org listing. I'm thinking we can accept sending some backscatter to our own customers, at least as l

Re: set envelope sender = sasl authenticated user ?

2010-09-07 Thread Jan-Frode Myklebust
On Mon, Sep 06, 2010 at 06:29:28PM -0500, Noel Jones wrote: > > I fail to see how controlling your users From: addresses will affect > a backscatterer.org listing. I'm thinking we can accept sending some backscatter to our own customers, at least as long as it's authenticated backscatter and we c

Re: set envelope sender = sasl authenticated user ?

2010-09-06 Thread Noel Jones
-authenticate and hopefully postfix can then set envelope sender = sasl-authenticated user. I fail to see how controlling your users From: addresses will affect a backscatterer.org listing. Or maybe set envelope sender = sasl-authenticated user *if* the sender isn't found i

set envelope sender = sasl authenticated user ?

2010-09-06 Thread Jan-Frode Myklebust
envelope sender = sasl-authenticated user. Or maybe set envelope sender = sasl-authenticated user *if* the sender isn't found in the smtpd_sender_login_maps. Is this feasible ? -jf