[postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is out!

2013-11-18 Thread Pierre Racine
Hey! I'm glad today to launch the PostGIS Add-ons. This new PostGIS extension aims at providing a quick, more Agile way to release pure PL/pgSQL functions developed by the PostGIS user community. It includes 15 new functions. Among them, two functions to aggregate raster/vector overlay statisti

Re: [postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is out!

2013-11-18 Thread Rémi Cura
Very cool idea. I have a lot of plpgsql functions. One more detail : what about licenses? Cheers, Rémi-C 2013/11/18 Pierre Racine > Hey! > > I'm glad today to launch the PostGIS Add-ons. This new PostGIS extension > aims at providing a quick, more Agile way to release pure PL/pgSQL > function

Re: [postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is out!

2013-11-18 Thread Pierre Racine
f Of Rémi Cura > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 11:49 AM > To: PostGIS Users Discussion > Subject: Re: [postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is out! > > Very cool idea. > I have a lot of plpgsql functions. > > One more detail : what about licenses? &g

Re: [postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is out!

2013-11-18 Thread Mateusz Loskot
On 18 November 2013 16:57, Pierre Racine wrote: > Should be the same as PostGIS (GPL). I will add license notice in the next > release (very soon!). If I were you, I'd make use MIT. Best regards, -- Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net ___ post

Re: [postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is out!

2013-11-18 Thread Rémi Cura
). > > Pierre > > > -Original Message- > > From: postgis-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:postgis-users- > > boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Rémi Cura > > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 11:49 AM > > To: PostGIS Users Discussion > > Subjec

Re: [postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is out!

2013-11-18 Thread Rémi Cura
t;> >> Pierre >> >> > -Original Message- >> > From: postgis-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:postgis-users- >> > boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Rémi Cura >> > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 11:49 AM >> > To: Po

Re: [postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is out!

2013-11-18 Thread Pierre Racine
Humm.. Lots of requirements... > Sorry for the license, I needed a clear answer :-) I personnaly would prefere > LGPL, like postgres. Doesn't seems like a good idea to make it different than PostGIS. How is LGPL different from LPG? I'm a license ignorant. > can you consider to use a template d

Re: [postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is out!

2013-11-18 Thread Mateusz Loskot
On 18 November 2013 17:13, Pierre Racine wrote: > I'm a license ignorant. Release it into the public domain and include a statement that you release all rights adding "No rights reserved". Best regards, -- Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net __

Re: [postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is out!

2013-11-18 Thread Stephen Woodbridge
On 11/18/2013 12:20 PM, Mateusz Loskot wrote: On 18 November 2013 17:13, Pierre Racine wrote: I'm a license ignorant. Release it into the public domain and include a statement that you release all rights adding "No rights reserved". Best regards, +1 on this because it is the most friendly

Re: [postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is out!

2013-11-18 Thread Rémi Cura
About license : if you use GPL function, your code becomes GPL, this might be a problem if using it inside company. If you use LGPL, you can do basically what you want. Using PostGIS everyday, I already find it hard to find the functions I need. I feel there is no point to provide additionnal func

Re: [postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is out!

2013-11-18 Thread Pierre Racine
Rémi, > About license : > if you use GPL function, your code becomes GPL, this might be a problem if > using it inside company. > If you use LGPL, you can do basically what you want. I think about going like Mateusz and Stephen suggested. What do you think? > Using PostGIS everyday, I already fi

Re: [postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is out!

2013-11-18 Thread Stephen Woodbridge
Pierre, Regarding the issue of the repository becoming a mess of unmanaged code in the over time, we had the same issue in pgRouting and took the follow approach. Rather than try to be the aggregator of the code submissions, we decided to become an index for them. We created a wiki page that

Re: [postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is out!

2013-11-18 Thread Pierre Racine
Thanks Stephen for these suggestions, > Rather than try to be the aggregator of the code submissions, we decided > to become an index for them. We created a wiki page that would allow > people to place a short description of what they provide and a link to > github gist or project. So they are no

Re: [postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is out!

2013-11-18 Thread Stephen Woodbridge
On 11/18/2013 2:53 PM, Pierre Racine wrote: Thanks Stephen for these suggestions, Rather than try to be the aggregator of the code submissions, we decided to become an index for them. We created a wiki page that would allow people to place a short description of what they provide and a link to

Re: [postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is out!

2013-11-18 Thread Mathieu Basille
Le 11/18/2013 12:25 PM, Stephen Woodbridge a écrit : On 11/18/2013 12:20 PM, Mateusz Loskot wrote: On 18 November 2013 17:13, Pierre Racine wrote: I'm a license ignorant. Release it into the public domain and include a statement that you release all rights adding "No rights reserved". Best

Re: [postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is out!

2013-11-19 Thread Pierre Racine
ussion > Subject: Re: [postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is out! > > Le 11/18/2013 12:25 PM, Stephen Woodbridge a écrit : > > On 11/18/2013 12:20 PM, Mateusz Loskot wrote: > >> On 18 November 2013 17:13, Pierre Racine > > >> wrote: > >&g

Re: [postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is out!

2013-11-19 Thread Pierre Racine
...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Pierre Racine > Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 1:45 PM > To: PostGIS Users Discussion > Subject: Re: [postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is out! > > I knew we would fall into a license nightmare... So far we've got sugg

Re: [postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is out!

2013-11-19 Thread Stephen Mather
; Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 1:45 PM > > To: PostGIS Users Discussion > > Subject: Re: [postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is > out! > > > > I knew we would fall into a license nightmare... So far we've got > suggestions > > for &quo

Re: [postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is out!

2013-11-19 Thread Pierre Racine
> IMHO, It's fine (actually wonderful) that postgis is in the GPL, it protects > the > project and does not really limit its use in any substantive way. It's big > enough to stand on its own. But re: #2 GPL would limit the wide use of > these scripts. How would GPL limit the wide use of these s

Re: [postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is out!

2013-11-19 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 02:13:04PM -0500, Pierre Racine wrote: > I bend toward GPL in any case... +1 for GPL "version 2 or later" Same license that applies to PostGIS. --strk; ___ postgis-users mailing list postgis-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.os

Re: [postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is out!

2013-11-19 Thread Stephen Mather
Oh, I prefer GPL, and in this case, since it's uncompiled code it probably doesn't matter. I just know lots of people belly ache about the GPL, so I'm trying to insert that perspective... . :) On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Pierre Racine wrote: > > IMHO, It's fine (actually wonderful) that p

Re: [postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is out!

2013-11-19 Thread Stephen Woodbridge
On 11/19/2013 2:42 PM, Pierre Racine wrote: IMHO, It's fine (actually wonderful) that postgis is in the GPL, it protects the project and does not really limit its use in any substantive way. It's big enough to stand on its own. But re: #2 GPL would limit the wide use of these scripts. How wou

Re: [postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is out!

2013-11-19 Thread Pierre Racine
> 1. If it is GPL and I add it to my code them my code has to be licensed > undr GPL. This is problematic for most business. If I have a proprietary > product that I'm spent 100's of thousands of hours to develop and > believe that it is critical to my success, there is no way that I can > afford t

Re: [postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is out!

2013-11-19 Thread Bborie Park
> Its your code, pick the one you want. > > +1. If there was one true answer to the licensing question, this would be it. -bborie ___ postgis-users mailing list postgis-users@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/postgis-users

Re: [postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is out!

2013-11-19 Thread Mathieu Basille
Sorry to be a little bit late in the discussion, but in my opinion, there are really two sensible solutions: 1) Use the most simple and liberal (permissive) license. No license is not an option, since it means copyright by default, and public domain is not a good option due to specific issues

Re: [postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is out!

2013-11-19 Thread Vincent Picavet
Hi, Sorry for complicating things. Le mardi 19 novembre 2013 21:48:11, Pierre Racine a écrit : > > 1. If it is GPL and I add it to my code them my code has to be licensed > > undr GPL. This is problematic for most business. If I have a proprietary > > product that I'm spent 100's of thousands of h

Re: [postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is out!

2013-11-20 Thread Pierre Racine
ily GPL". Does that make sense? Does that exist? Pierre > -Original Message- > From: Vincent Picavet [mailto:vincent...@oslandia.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 5:58 PM > To: postgis-users@lists.osgeo.org > Cc: Pierre Racine > Subject: Re: [postgis-users] The f

Re: [postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is out!

2013-11-20 Thread Mateusz Loskot
> I would have gone with a license saying "You can modify and redistribute as > long as the derived work is also under an open license, not necessarily GPL". > Does that make sense? Does that exist? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WTFPL Best regards, -- Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net

Re: [postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is out!

2013-11-20 Thread Pierre Racine
t > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 9:52 AM > To: PostGIS Users Discussion > Subject: Re: [postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is out! > > > I would have gone with a license saying "You can modify and redistribute > as long as the derived work i

Re: [postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is out!

2013-11-20 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 09:56:56AM -0500, Pierre Racine wrote: > Not really the same thing as I said... ;-) > > I would prefer "You just DO WHAT THE FUCK YOU WANT TO as long as it stay > open..." That's GPL, really. The only reason for people NOT to like it is when they want to craft some piece

Re: [postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is out!

2013-11-20 Thread Rémi Cura
There is a very big difference between :' i tweak one of your function, so my tweak must be open source' and 'i use one of your function, so my code must be open source'. Unfortunately GPL imposes both. Cheers, Rémi-C 2013/11/20 Sandro Santilli > On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 09:56:56AM -0500, Pie

Re: [postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is out!

2013-11-20 Thread Paolo Cavallini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/20/13 16:14, Sandro Santilli wrote: > That's GPL, really. The only reason for people NOT to like it is > when they want to craft some piece of closed source and still use > what you send out to the world as an open component. +1: * PostGIS is G

Re: [postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is out!

2013-11-20 Thread Paolo Cavallini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 20/11/2013 16:32, Rémi Cura ha scritto: > There is a very big difference between :' i tweak one of your function, so my > tweak > must be open source' and 'i use one of your function, so my code must be open > source'. > > Unfortunately GPL impos

Re: [postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is out!

2013-11-20 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 04:32:12PM +0100, Rémi Cura wrote: > There is a very big difference between :' i tweak one of your function, so > my tweak must be open source' and 'i use one of your function, so my code > must be open source'. > > Unfortunately GPL imposes both. It's not unfortunate, it'

Re: [postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is out!

2013-11-20 Thread Rémi Cura
This is not as simple, Many open source software are not GPL (starting from standard implementing api ), including postgres ! GPL is not always the answer, and here I don't think it is. For me it should be a more open license, and the project should be hosted on the postgis github. Cheers, Rémi

Re: [postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is out!

2013-11-20 Thread Vincent Picavet
Hi, > > I would prefer "You just DO WHAT THE FUCK YOU WANT TO as long as it stay > > open..." > > That's GPL, really. The only reason for people NOT to like it is > when they want to craft some piece of closed source and still use > what you send out to the world as an open component. Another re

Re: [postgis-users] The first release of the PostGIS Add-ons is out!

2013-11-20 Thread Olivier Courtin
On Nov 20, 2013, at 3:48 PM, Pierre Racine wrote: Salut Pierre, > Thanks Vincent for this input. > > I'll go for GPL for now as it's that a nightmare to change afterward if, > really, someone complains. I'm agree with Remi and Vincent points. And i don't see there, any coming code valuable en