Hi Scott/Joe/Andreas,

Thanks for all your help.  I just wanted to update you with the progress
that was made with regards to not being able to redirect from https to
http.

For testing purposing, I simplified the backend code to only print 'Hello
world' for http request.  And all https requests were simply redirected
back to http.  In the live environment, this scenario would occur when a
logged in user goes from a secure to an unsecured page by clicking a link.

I was able to replicate the endless redirect with the code below.  This
was fixed by adding 'RewriteLocation 0' to the pound.cfg which was not
required for version 2.5 but is required for 2.6.


Here is the Plack/PSGI app for the backend which runs on port 80:

use strict;
use Plack::Builder;

# Run this app on port 80

my $app = sub {
        my $env = shift;

    if ( $env->{HTTP_X_SECURE_CONNECTION} ) {

                
        # redirect https://www.frankydev.co.uk to
http://www.frankydev.co.uk
        return redirect( 'http://www.frankydev.co.uk');

                
    } else {

                
        # just print text to confirm success
        return [
            200,
            [ 'Content-Type', 'text/plain' ],
            [ 'Hello World!' ],
        ];
        
    }
};

builder {
    $app;
};


# Method to redirect to the supplied url
sub redirect {
    my $url = shift;

    return [
        302,
        [ "Location", $url ],
        []      
    ];
}


Here is my pound.cfg:


User    "nobody"
Group   "nobody"

Alive 5
LogLevel 2

ListenHTTPS

    Address 0.0.0.0
    Port    443
    Cert    "/etc/pound/dev.pem"
    Ciphers
"ALL:!aNULL:!ADH:!eNULL:!EXPORT56:RC4+RSA:HIGH:MEDIUM:!LOW:!SSLv2:!EXP:!eNU
L:!EXP-DES-CBC-SHA:!EXP-RC2-CBC-MD5:!EXP-RC4-MD5:!EXP-DES-CBC-SHA:!EXP-RC2-
CBC-MD5:!EXP-RC4-MD5"

    AddHeader "X-Secure-Connection: true"

    Service
        BackEnd
            Address 127.0.0.1
            Port    80
        End
    End
End



I used curl for testing:

curl https://www.frankydev.co.uk -v --insecure -b
session_dev=2a6b6346fc9772a597ba083d063d3618e8d7dyyh


This is the result before the fix (Location still points to https):

> GET / HTTP/1.1
> User-Agent: curl/7.21.4 (universal-apple-darwin11.0) libcurl/7.21.4
>OpenSSL/0.9.8r zlib/1.2.5
> Host: www.frankydev.co.uk
> Accept: */*
> Cookie: session_dev= 2a6b6346fc9772a597ba083d063d3618e8d7dyyh
> 
* HTTP 1.0, assume close after body
< HTTP/1.0 302 Found
< Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 15:25:01 GMT
< Server: HTTP::Server::PSGI
< Location: https://www.frankydev.co.uk/
< Content-Length: 0
< 
* Closing connection #0
* SSLv3, TLS alert, Client hello (1):



This is the result after adding 'RewriteLocation 0':

> GET / HTTP/1.1
> User-Agent: curl/7.21.4 (universal-apple-darwin11.0) libcurl/7.21.4
>OpenSSL/0.9.8r zlib/1.2.5
> Host: www.frankydev.co.uk
> Accept: */*
> Cookie: session_dev= 2a6b6346fc9772a597ba083d063d3618e8d7dyyh
> 
* HTTP 1.0, assume close after body
< HTTP/1.0 302 Found
< Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 15:26:53 GMT
< Server: HTTP::Server::PSGI
< Location: http://www.frankydev.co.uk
< Content-Length: 0
< 
* Closing connection #0
* SSLv3, TLS alert, Client hello (1):


Location now points to http





On 20/09/2012 20:58, "Joe Gooch" <mrwiz...@k12system.com> wrote:

>Do not include the csr in the pem for pound. Key, then crt.
>
>I'll admit, I've only partly been paying attention.. But from what I've
>been reading I'm having a hard time figuring out what you're trying to
>accomplish. Are you trying to use Pound for SSL termination, and as such
>you just want it to pass everything through to a backend?  Is the backend
>doing SSL?  Is the backend smart enough to read the header coming from
>pound and not redirect?  Is something else listening on port 80 to pick
>up the traffic? If so, is it redirecting properly? (and if it's
>redirecting to a backend, why isn't that doing SSL termination?)
>
>If I were a user, what would a diagram of a normal request look like?  In
>my situation it's:
>
>Port 80 = pound -> redirect to https://pound.hostname.domain/
>Port 443 = pound -> HTTP to one of several backends on ports
>81,82,83,etc.  Backends redirect if the HTTPS header isn't set, and
>RewriteDestination 2 is on the pound config.
>
>
>
>Joe
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Andreas Hilboll [mailto:li...@hilboll.de]
>> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 3:11 PM
>> To: pound@apsis.ch
>> Subject: Re: [Pound Mailing List] BEAST attack patch for Pound 2.6
>> cannot get certificate
>> 
>> Is it possible that your Perl application tries to enforce HTTPS? If
>> so, HTTPS would go from user to Pound, HTTP from Pound to Perl, and
>> Perl would then redirect to HTTPS, ending in an infinite loop.
>> 
>> Cheers, A.
>> 
>> > It is pretty much what I emailed earlier.  /etc/pound/dev.pem is a
>> > self-sign certificate for testing.  This is how I created the
>> certificate:
>> >
>> >
>> > openssl req -new -newkey rsa:2048 -nodes -keyout dev.key -out dev.csr
>> >
>> > openssl x509 -req -days 3650 -in dev.csr -signkey dev.key -out
>> dev.crt
>> >
>> > cat dev.key dev.csr dev.crt > dev.pem
>> >
>> > And here is the pound config:
>> >
>> > User    "nobody"
>> > Group   "nobody"
>> >
>> > Alive 5
>> > LogLevel 0
>> >
>> > ListenHTTPS
>> >
>> >     Address x.x.x.x
>> >     Port    443
>> >     Cert    "/etc/pound/dev.pem"
>> >     Ciphers
>> >
>> "ALL:!aNULL:!ADH:!eNULL:!EXPORT56:RC4+RSA:HIGH:MEDIUM:!LOW:!SSLv2:!EXP:
>> !eNUL:!EXP-DES-CBC-SHA:!EXP-RC2-CBC-MD5:!EXP-RC4-MD5:!EXP-DES-CBC-
>> SHA:!EXP-RC2-CBC-MD5:!EXP-RC4-MD5"
>> >
>> >     AddHeader "X-Secure-Connection: true"
>> >
>> >     Service
>> >         BackEnd
>> >             Address x.x.x.x
>> >             Port    xxxx
>> >         End
>> >     End
>> >
>> > End
>> >
>> > From: Scott McKeown
>> > <sc...@loadbalancer.org<mailto:sc...@loadbalancer.org>>
>> > Reply-To: "pound@apsis.ch<mailto:pound@apsis.ch>"
>> > <pound@apsis.ch<mailto:pound@apsis.ch>>
>> > Date: Thursday, 20 September 2012 16:30
>> > To: "pound@apsis.ch<mailto:pound@apsis.ch>"
>> > <pound@apsis.ch<mailto:pound@apsis.ch>>
>> > Subject: Re: [Pound Mailing List] BEAST attack patch for Pound 2.6
>> > cannot get certificate
>> >
>> > Hi Francoise,
>> > Can you show me your current pound.cfg file please (replace anything
>> > with
>> > X's)
>> >
>> > ~Scott
>> >
>> >
>> > On 20 September 2012 15:49, Francoise Dehinbo
>> >
>> <francoise.dehi...@foxtons.co.uk<mailto:francoise.dehi...@foxtons.co.u
>> > k>>
>> > wrote:
>> > I tried your suggestion below so pound runs on 443 and 80.  All http
>> > goes from pound to the new perlbal port 8080.  And all https goes
>> > through pound as usual.  I still have the same problem.  Cannot
>> > redirect from http to https and vise versa (now that pound is running
>> both ports).
>> >
>> > From: Scott McKeown
>> >
>> <sc...@loadbalancer.org<mailto:sc...@loadbalancer.org><mailto:scott@lo
>> > adbalancer.org<mailto:sc...@loadbalancer.org>>>
>> > Reply-To:
>> >
>> "pound@apsis.ch<mailto:pound@apsis.ch><mailto:pound@apsis.ch<mailto:pou
>> n...@apsis.ch>>"
>> >
>> <pound@apsis.ch<mailto:pound@apsis.ch><mailto:pound@apsis.ch<mailto:po
>> > u...@apsis.ch>>>
>> > Date: Thursday, 20 September 2012 13:40
>> > To:
>> >
>> "pound@apsis.ch<mailto:pound@apsis.ch><mailto:pound@apsis.ch<mailto:pou
>> n...@apsis.ch>>"
>> >
>> <pound@apsis.ch<mailto:pound@apsis.ch><mailto:pound@apsis.ch<mailto:po
>> > u...@apsis.ch>>>
>> > Subject: Re: [Pound Mailing List] BEAST attack patch for Pound 2.6
>> > cannot get certificate
>> >
>> > So your Pound Setup and the Web Site are running on the same server,
>> > sorry I have mine setup in a Proxy mode which is a slightly different
>> setup.
>> > I don't know perlbal but at a guess you should be able to change the
>> > port that its listening on in its config file to something like 8080
>> > and then with the pound redirect as above inplace but to port 8080
>> for
>> > the BackEnd
>> >
>> >
>> > ~Scott
>> >
>> >
>> > On 20 September 2012 12:51, Francoise Dehinbo
>> >
>> <francoise.dehi...@foxtons.co.uk<mailto:francoise.dehi...@foxtons.co.u
>> >
>> k><mailto:francoise.dehi...@foxtons.co.uk<mailto:francoise.dehinbo@fox
>> > tons.co.uk>>>
>> > wrote:
>> > Just for testing, I stopped perlbal, added the ListenHTTP suggestion
>> > to pound, so now pound runs on ports 443 and 80.  The problem is
>> > worse.  I cannot go from http to https or from https to http.  So
>> it's
>> > definitely something with pound!  Previously I reinstalled pound with
>> > just plain 2.6 without any patches and it's the same problem!
>> >
>> > From: Scott McKeown
>> >
>> <sc...@loadbalancer.org<mailto:sc...@loadbalancer.org><mailto:scott@lo
>> >
>> adbalancer.org<mailto:sc...@loadbalancer.org>><mailto:scott@loadbalanc
>> >
>> er.org<mailto:sc...@loadbalancer.org><mailto:sc...@loadbalancer.org<ma
>> > ilto:sc...@loadbalancer.org>>>>
>> > Reply-To:
>> >
>> "pound@apsis.ch<mailto:pound@apsis.ch><mailto:pound@apsis.ch<mailto:pou
>> n...@apsis.ch>><mailto:pound@apsis.ch<mailto:pound@apsis.ch><mailto:pound
>> @apsis.ch<mailto:pound@apsis.ch>>>"
>> >
>> <pound@apsis.ch<mailto:pound@apsis.ch><mailto:pound@apsis.ch<mailto:po
>> >
>> u...@apsis.ch>><mailto:pound@apsis.ch<mailto:pound@apsis.ch><mailto:pou
>> > n...@apsis.ch<mailto:pound@apsis.ch>>>>
>> > Date: Thursday, 20 September 2012 12:30
>> > To:
>> >
>> "pound@apsis.ch<mailto:pound@apsis.ch><mailto:pound@apsis.ch<mailto:pou
>> n...@apsis.ch>><mailto:pound@apsis.ch<mailto:pound@apsis.ch><mailto:pound
>> @apsis.ch<mailto:pound@apsis.ch>>>"
>> >
>> <pound@apsis.ch<mailto:pound@apsis.ch><mailto:pound@apsis.ch<mailto:po
>> >
>> u...@apsis.ch>><mailto:pound@apsis.ch<mailto:pound@apsis.ch><mailto:pou
>> > n...@apsis.ch<mailto:pound@apsis.ch>>>>
>> > Subject: Re: [Pound Mailing List] BEAST attack patch for Pound 2.6
>> > cannot get certificate
>> >
>> > Hi Francoise,
>> >
>> > OK think I've got it now. Try something like this:
>> >
>> >
>> > User    "nobody"
>> > Group   "nobody"
>> > LogLevel 1
>> >
>> > ListenHTTPS
>> >     Address xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
>> >     Port    443
>> >     Cert    "/etc/pound/dev.pem"
>> >     Ciphers
>> >
>> "ALL:!aNULL:!ADH:!eNULL:!EXPORT56:RC4+RSA:HIGH:MEDIUM:!LOW:!SSLv2:!EXP:
>> !eNUL:!EXP-DES-CBC-SHA:!EXP-RC2-CBC-MD5:!EXP-RC4-MD5:!EXP-DES-CBC-
>> SHA:!EXP-RC2-CBC-MD5:!EXP-RC4-MD5"
>> >     AddHeader "X-Secure-Connection: true"
>> >     Service
>> >         BackEnd
>> >             # Send everything PSGI apps
>> >             Address 127.0.0.1
>> >             Port    5555
>> >         End
>> >     End
>> > End
>> > ListenHTTP
>> >     Address xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
>> >     Port    80
>> >     Service
>> >         BackEnd
>> >             Address 127.0.0.1
>> >             Port    5555
>> >         End
>> >     End
>> > End
>> >
>> > This should stop the looping and catch anything that is HTTP and
>> > display as normal. If you want for FORCE HTTP traffic to HTTPS the
>> > Redirect option should work
>> >
>> > ~Scott
>> >
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