Re: Computers are systems not languages

2011-02-23 Thread Richard O'Keefe
On 24/02/2011, at 5:18 AM, alex wrote: Hi Andrew, Thanks for the illuminating response, On 22 February 2011 03:39, Andrew Walenstein walen...@ieee.org wrote: Even if you don't like these two arguments, surely most would admit that *one* of the primary purposes of good programming

Re: Computers are systems not languages

2011-02-22 Thread Richard O'Keefe
On 22/02/2011, at 4:39 PM, Andrew Walenstein wrote: http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/DeCSS/Gallery/decss-haiku.txt This page provides Haiku versions of the DeCSS DVD decryption algorithm. The DeCSS code was put on t-shirts and into dramatic reading and into Haiku. Many people did this because

Re: Computers are systems not languages

2011-02-18 Thread alex
Hi Richard, This adds a lot of clarity, thanks. On 18 February 2011 00:27, Richard O'Keefe o...@cs.otago.ac.nz wrote: On 18/02/2011, at 3:55 AM, alex wrote: Ian Bogost starts off by arguing that learning a programming language shouldn't meet a curricular requirement for learning a natural

Re: Computers are systems not languages

2011-02-17 Thread Richard O'Keefe
It does sound as though there's a category confusion there. There's clearly a range of things that have a strong family resemblance. We have Spoken human languages. Signed human languages. Written human languages. Invented human languages like Esperanto and lojban.