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Re: [OT] Let are children walk

2007-05-27 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Pete Theisen wrote: > Hi Stephen! > > I think they should do it like they did before for YEARS. Make no pass/fail > announcements at all and just distribute blank parchments to the losers. The > losers can finish up during night or summer school or take the GED. > > Sure, this is social graduatio

Re: [NF] UK Microsoft: Kick out incompetent IT pros

2007-05-27 Thread MB Software Solutions
Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: > But who is going to complain? Customers who wanted a brand new > inventory system custom designed for their shop. Without specs. In three > months. To run on 386s running Windows ME. For $22,000. (That includes > documentation, help files, and a week of training.

Re: [NF] UK Microsoft: Kick out incompetent IT pros

2007-05-27 Thread MB Software Solutions
Ed Leafe wrote: > But perhaps a process akin to the Better Business Bureau, where > complaints about shoddy workmanship/practices are reviewed and made > public, might be a good first step. While I'd agree with this, it's bound to be bullshit at times too where you get an asshole client who ass

Re: [NF] UK Microsoft: Kick out incompetent IT pros

2007-05-27 Thread MB Software Solutions
Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh wrote: > Or believing that it can, if we "eat" some learning time (a *lot* of > learning time)? I know that I have done this, though I always > underestimate just how much "a lot" is going to be. > So you take 6-8 months to properly plan/document/prepare (this is akin

Re: [NF] UK Microsoft: Kick out incompetent IT pros

2007-05-27 Thread MB Software Solutions
Michael Madigan wrote: > It's going to be hard to get this started. > > The legal profession is hundreds of years old. > > The medical system is hundreds of years old. > > IT is only a few decades old. > > With IT, there are multiple solutions to every > project. I would think medicine has fewer,

Re: [OT] Iraq's Sadr Overhauls His Tactics, Shiite Woos Sunnis, PurgesExtremists

2007-05-27 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
Graham Dobson wrote: > I don't believe Maliki is a good thing, he is merely the compromise prime > minister that it took the Shias' 5 months to decide upon after the Iraqi > elections. I think a real change in the tactics of the surge will be to no > longer wait for the Iraqi police and army to do

Re: [OT] Iraq's Sadr Overhauls His Tactics, Shiite Woos Sunnis, PurgesExtremists

2007-05-27 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
The Bush Administration my not want a unified Iraq or a unified Islam including both Shiite and Sunni. The Bush Administration could be trying to silence any voices calling for reconciliation and unification. It could be that all the violence in the ME is working in favor of those who would use

Re: [OT] Iraq's Sadr Overhauls His Tactics, Shiite Woos Sunnis, PurgesExtremists

2007-05-27 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Bill Arnold wrote: >>> We are, above all else, a democracy. That capitalism drives our >>> economy is an accepted fact of life, but what is NOT accepted is > that >>> capitalism can take control of our gov't. When that does happen, > it's >>> called fascism, not democracy. >>> >> So you are sayi

RE: [OT] Iraq's Sadr Overhauls His Tactics, Shiite Woos Sunnis, PurgesExtremists

2007-05-27 Thread Graham Dobson
I don't believe Maliki is a good thing, he is merely the compromise prime minister that it took the Shias' 5 months to decide upon after the Iraqi elections. I think a real change in the tactics of the surge will be to no longer wait for the Iraqi police and army to do a job they are incapable of

RE: [OT] Iraq's Sadr Overhauls His Tactics, Shiite Woos Sunnis,PurgesExtremists

2007-05-27 Thread Bill Arnold
> I suppose it is the black-clad and thuggish gunmen who follow > him, and this reliance on an otherworldly mysticism for his > authority which strikes me as extreme and dangerous. I am > also suspicious of his rabid anti-American, pro-Iranian > worldview. But, if America is not to take sid

RE: [OT] Iraq's Sadr Overhauls His Tactics, Shiite Woos Sunnis, PurgesExtremists

2007-05-27 Thread Graham Dobson
I suppose it is the black-clad and thuggish gunmen who follow him, and this reliance on an otherworldly mysticism for his authority which strikes me as extreme and dangerous. I am also suspicious of his rabid anti-American, pro-Iranian worldview. But, if America is not to take sides in this spir

RE: [OT] Iraq's Sadr Overhauls His Tactics, Shiite Woos Sunnis,PurgesExtremists

2007-05-27 Thread Bill Arnold
> > We are, above all else, a democracy. That capitalism drives our > > economy is an accepted fact of life, but what is NOT accepted is that > > capitalism can take control of our gov't. When that does happen, it's > > called fascism, not democracy. > > > > So you are saying that yours is a

Re: [OT] Iraq's Sadr Overhauls His Tactics, Shiite Woos Sunnis, PurgesExtremists

2007-05-27 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Bill Arnold wrote: >> I simply state that its life. >> You do things for financial gain or because you enjoy doing it. >> >> Power and money go hand in hand. > > > Have you forgotten this is America, the land of the free, the home of > the brave; the place where life, liberty and the pursuit of h

RE: [OT] Iraq's Sadr Overhauls His Tactics, Shiite Woos Sunnis, PurgesExtremists

2007-05-27 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Bill, most people do NOT vote. And others such as myself that may have thought about getting involved in politics are repulsed by the thought of sensation seeking journalists analyzing what we do for recreation. I could hear it now. We caught the mayor candidate "virgil" cavorting in a hottub full

RE: [OT] Iraq's Sadr Overhauls His Tactics, Shiite Woos Sunnis,PurgesExtremists

2007-05-27 Thread Bill Arnold
> I talk about it because you believe your view is the only view. Don't put words in my mouth. I absolutely do NOT believe my point of view is the only view, and I've never, ever said anything like that. What I have said is that I've analyzed the situation to the best of my ability and come to

RE: [OT] Iraq's Sadr Overhauls His Tactics, Shiite Woos Sunnis, PurgesExtremists

2007-05-27 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
I talk about it because you believe your view is the only view. When you consider that the two of us are in a room talking about this, and you have one view and I have a different view, that tells me that neither of us have a majority as we're equally divided. I believe that when you expand the r

RE: [OT] Iraq's Sadr Overhauls His Tactics, Shiite Woos Sunnis,PurgesExtremists

2007-05-27 Thread Bill Arnold
> I simply state that its life. > You do things for financial gain or because you enjoy doing it. > > Power and money go hand in hand. Have you forgotten this is America, the land of the free, the home of the brave; the place where life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness is woven into our Co

RE: [OT] Iraq's Sadr Overhauls His Tactics, Shiite Woos Sunnis, PurgesExtremists

2007-05-27 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
I simply state that its life. You do things for financial gain or because you enjoy doing it. Power and money go hand in hand. I hardly turn on my tv except to watch a few shows or cnbc, hgtv, diy, food network. You can't make sense out of it because you choose not too. People talk about the lo

RE: [OT] Iraq's Sadr Overhauls His Tactics, Shiite Woos Sunnis,PurgesExtremists

2007-05-27 Thread Bill Arnold
> Look around you bill. > A persons life has everything to do with religion, money, > greed and corruption. Do you excuse that and say it's right? > As for what the media barron's put out there. > They put it out there because people read and watch it. Don't be naïve. It's about power. > If

Re: [NF] UK Microsoft: Kick out incompetent IT pros

2007-05-27 Thread Michael Madigan
Last night's "The Real Deal" on TLC had them blasting their IT guy the whole show. I have no idea whether the IT guy was incompetant or not, but the comments to him like "We can renovate a house in a week and you should get the computer network up in the same amount of time" shows how ignorant

RE: [OT] Iraq's Sadr Overhauls His Tactics, Shiite Woos Sunnis, PurgesExtremists

2007-05-27 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Look around you bill. A persons life has everything to do with religion, money, greed and corruption. As for what the media barron's put out there. They put it out there because people read and watch it. If people didn't read and watch it, they wouldn't put it out there because there wouldn't be

RE: [OT] Iraq's Sadr Overhauls His Tactics, Shiite Woos Sunnis,PurgesExtremists

2007-05-27 Thread Bill Arnold
> I think its because we don't see eye to eye on things. How do you really know what 300 million people think when the only portal into their thinking is the TV, and the TV's editorial content is controlled at the highest level by a handful of barons? (search 'media consolidation' for the facts)

RE: [OT] Iraq's Sadr Overhauls His Tactics, Shiite Woos Sunnis, PurgesExtremists

2007-05-27 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
I think its because we don't see eye to eye on things. I've always considered myself liberal, but listening to you guys on here, I'm definitely not a democrat. I'm not a republican either from what I've seen, but I'm more closely aligned with their beliefs, then I am a democrats beliefs. Virgil B

Re: [OT] Iraq's Sadr Overhauls His Tactics, Shiite Woos Sunnis, PurgesExtremists

2007-05-27 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
Well, explain again why the believe by some Shiites that al-Sadr is the reincarnated 10th century leader Imam al-Mahdi make al-Sadr an extreme radical. Christians like myself believe the Jesus Christ was God incarnated in the flesh. Does that make Jesus Christ extreme, radical, or evil, per s

RE: [OT] Iraq's Sadr Overhauls His Tactics, Shiite Woos Sunnis,PurgesExtremists

2007-05-27 Thread Bill Arnold
I think we can speculate until the cows come home over what's good or not good for Iraq, but when the dust settles it's the people of the region who will decide, not us. We did them a single favor, getting rid of Saddam, but at a cost so high that any good that could have come of it has been oblit

Re: [OT] Iraq's Sadr Overhauls His Tactics, Shiite Woos Sunnis, PurgesExtremists

2007-05-27 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
Robert Calco wrote: > It's very simple Leland. You love Mookie because, well... you lost > your mind. Or rather, your mind has been abducted by a false premise. > > Somewhere in the dark abyss that is your cerebral cortex, the MoveOn > notion that George Bush is the root of all evil took root a

Re: [OT] Iraq's Sadr Overhauls His Tactics, Shiite Woos Sunnis, PurgesExtremists

2007-05-27 Thread Robert Calco
Making heads or tails of the dribble of non-sequiturs that excretes from your brain is almost as much fun as mowing the lawn. Time to grab the weed whacker... Mookie as Dalai Lama Well I did guess Mother Theresa in my last email, I wasn't that far off, conceptually. - Bob On May 27, 200

Re: [OT] Iraq's Sadr Overhauls His Tactics, Shiite Woos Sunnis, PurgesExtremists

2007-05-27 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
The Buddhist of Tibet believe in a succession of reborn Dalai Lamas. The current Dalai Lama is believed to be the 14th reincarnation. Does the belief by the Tibetan people in a reincarnated Dalai Lama make the Dalai Lama an extremist, or a radical, or an otherwise evil entity. I don't think

Re: [OT] Iraq's Sadr Overhauls His Tactics, Shiite Woos Sunnis, PurgesExtremists

2007-05-27 Thread Robert Calco
It's very simple Leland. You love Mookie because, well... you lost your mind. Or rather, your mind has been abducted by a false premise. Somewhere in the dark abyss that is your cerebral cortex, the MoveOn notion that George Bush is the root of all evil took root and you are now able only to

Re: [OT] Iraq's Sadr Overhauls His Tactics, Shiite Woos Sunnis, PurgesExtremists

2007-05-27 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
I'm a little bit confused, and usually when I'm a little confused, it's because I'm only being told half the story, or the story is a misrepresentation of the facts, so the pieces don't fit together. Let's see: 1) Al-Sadr is a uniter who wants to unit Iraq and institute a policy of tolerance

Re: [OT] Let are children walk

2007-05-27 Thread Pete Theisen
On Sunday 27 May 2007 10:23 am, Stephen the Cook wrote: > Michael Madigan <> wrote: > > http://www.star-telegram.com/news/story/115406.html > > About 6 or more years ago we had a similar situation here in Memphis. Kids > at a high school failed to pass their tests to graduate and the parents > sue

[OT] Eulogy for Jerry

2007-05-27 Thread Ed Leafe
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Re: [NF] UK Microsoft: Kick out incompetent IT pros

2007-05-27 Thread Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
>> You can't do it? Well, I'm going to call the BBB and tell them you're >> incompetent and a crook besides! > > Go right ahead - you'll be laughed out of the BBB! > > In a previous life I had a construction business, and I can't tell > you how many times people tried to threaten me

RE: [OT] Let are children walk

2007-05-27 Thread Stephen the Cook
Michael Madigan <> wrote: > http://www.star-telegram.com/news/story/115406.html About 6 or more years ago we had a similar situation here in Memphis. Kids at a high school failed to pass their tests to graduate and the parents sued to let them attend the graduation and be included. Would you bel

Re: [NF] UK Microsoft: Kick out incompetent IT pros

2007-05-27 Thread Ed Leafe
On May 26, 2007, at 9:56 PM, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: > But who is going to complain? Customers who wanted a brand new > inventory system custom designed for their shop. Without specs. In > three > months. To run on 386s running Windows ME. For $22,000. (That includes > documentation, help

Re: [NF] UK Microsoft: Kick out incompetent IT pros

2007-05-27 Thread Ted Roche
On 5/27/07, Kevin Cully <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Speaking of poor architecture standards: Which requires invoking the words of the elders: WEINBERG'S SECOND LAW: If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would de

Re: [NF] UK Microsoft: Kick out incompetent IT pros

2007-05-27 Thread Ted Roche
On 5/26/07, Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am just musing about the spectrum of processes, from "seat-of-the- > pants" to "Big-8, professional project manager." Where on the > spectrum is the best for a small shop? My philosophy: it's not about you. It's not about the small

Re: [OT] Let are children walk

2007-05-27 Thread Pete Theisen
On Sunday 27 May 2007 12:35 am, Michael Madigan wrote: > http://www.star-telegram.com/news/story/115406.html Hi Michael! That $8 spell-checker is really making the rounds, The chick carrying the sign was heavy duty. -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ __

Re: [NF] UK Microsoft: Kick out incompetent IT pros

2007-05-27 Thread Kevin Cully
Speaking of poor architecture standards: http://youtube.com/watch?v=YCfgfccpHpc Okay. I've got to put a couple of bucks into the FoxForward PortABar fund! -Kevin CULLY Technologies, LLC Sponsor of FoxForward 2007 foxforward.net Ed Leafe wrote: It would be a > range of effects, such as exist b

Re: Storing hyperlinks in a table (VFP9)

2007-05-27 Thread Paul Newton
Allen Allen wrote: > You could just store the whole bit in one I suppose. Thanks for the suggestion - now how to "grab" that from a web page, how to store it, and how to display it/them (the hyperlinks) on a VFP form ? Here's what I did (eventually) 1. Found two extensions for FireFox ("Co

Re: Storing hyperlinks in a table (VFP9)

2007-05-27 Thread Paul Newton
Virgil Not quite what I was asking but thanks anyway. Virgil Bierschwale wrote: > I had to figure this out yesterday. > Basically I stored the info in a field called email. > > In the display code I have this: > if x.name="email" > then >