Re: [NF] App for cheapskates.

2012-02-17 Thread Michael Madigan
The problem is the liability issue and the problems with vandalism.   From: Tracy Pearson To: profox@leafe.com Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [NF] App for cheapskates. Michael Madigan wrote: >I'm guessing every hotel lobby and almost e

Re: [NF] Here's something everyone needs

2012-02-17 Thread Michael Madigan
The only problem is that the return key doesn't give you the same sound of typewriter From: Ken Dibble To: profox@leafe.com Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [NF] Here's something everyone needs > >>http://www.etsy.com/listing/89148845/u

Re: [NF] Here's something everyone needs

2012-02-17 Thread Ken Dibble
> >>http://www.etsy.com/listing/89148845/usb-typewriter-computer-keyboard?ut > m_source=bronto&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Image+-+http%3A%2F%2Fwww.etsy.com%2Flisting%2F89148845%2Fusb-typewriter-computer-keyboard&utm_content=etsy_finds_021512&utm_campaign=etsy_finds_021512> > > > > That is so cool!

Re: [NF] New Windows logo

2012-02-17 Thread Stephen Russell
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Paul McNett wrote: > On 2/17/12 2:28 PM, Stephen Russell wrote: >> Looks like a wall to me. > > I loved reading in the logo design blog how they were trying to be humble. --- Only if the got rid of Balmer. ;-> I want to tag the wall with graffiti my

Re: [NF] New Windows logo

2012-02-17 Thread Paul McNett
On 2/17/12 2:28 PM, Stephen Russell wrote: > Looks like a wall to me. I loved reading in the logo design blog how they were trying to be humble. Paul ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/p

Re: [NF] App for cheapskates.

2012-02-17 Thread Tracy Pearson
Michael Madigan wrote: >I'm guessing every hotel lobby and almost every office building has >one.    > > I would agree with that. I was thinking this should be more for parks and city spaces outside. Will be reading more on the subject. -- Tracy Pearson PowerChurch Software Sent with K-9 Mail

Re: [NF] Here's something everyone needs

2012-02-17 Thread Michael Madigan
http://www.grc.com/freeware/clickey.htm  Here's a program that turns your keyboard into a typewriter.  - Original Message - From: Stephen Russell To: ProFox Email List Cc: Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [NF] Here's something everyone needs On Thu, Feb 16, 2012

Re: VFP9 Decompiler

2012-02-17 Thread Michael Madigan
I think probably slow response time is the problem.   I'm guilty of this myself sometimes, thinking something is a minor issue while it is driving the customer nuts.    - Original Message - From: Frank Cazabon To: profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 6:53 AM Subject: R

Re: [NF] App for cheapskates.

2012-02-17 Thread Michael Madigan
I'm guessing every hotel lobby and almost every office building has one.    - Original Message - From: Tracy Pearson To: ProFox Email List Cc: Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 3:27 PM Subject: Re: [NF] App for cheapskates. Michael Madigan wrote: >Why drink bottled water when you can

Re: [NF] Equivalent to SQL Server or Oracle's MONEY type in MySQL

2012-02-17 Thread Stephen Russell
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 1:48 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: > Provider has sent me data where one of the fields I'm to import is of > type MONEY.  MySQL does not have a currency or money type.  I was > wondering what I should use for the equivalent mapping:  FLOAT, DOUBLE, > or some extreme

Re: [NF] App for cheapskates.

2012-02-17 Thread Tracy Pearson
Michael Madigan wrote: >Why drink bottled water when you can use an app to find a water >fountain?  LOL > >http://www.treehugger.com/gadgets/need-drinking-water-fountain-theres-app.html  Perhaps I'll get this and add to it. There isn't a listing within 50 miles from me. -- Tracy Pearson Powe

Re: [NF] App for cheapskates.

2012-02-17 Thread Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox)
Fits me to a "T" -- proud cheapskate since, well, forever. Thanks --- downloading! On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: > Why drink bottled water when you can use an app to find a water fountain?  LOL ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@lea

[NF] App for cheapskates.

2012-02-17 Thread Michael Madigan
Why drink bottled water when you can use an app to find a water fountain?  LOL http://www.treehugger.com/gadgets/need-drinking-water-fountain-theres-app.html  ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/lis

[NF] Equivalent to SQL Server or Oracle's MONEY type in MySQL

2012-02-17 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
Provider has sent me data where one of the fields I'm to import is of type MONEY. MySQL does not have a currency or money type. I was wondering what I should use for the equivalent mapping: FLOAT, DOUBLE, or some extreme DECIMAL? tia, --Mike -- Mike Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC

Re: [NF] Here's something everyone needs

2012-02-17 Thread Stephen Russell
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 7:36 PM, Ken Dibble wrote: > >>http://www.etsy.com/listing/89148845/usb-typewriter-computer-keyboard?utm_source=bronto&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Image+-+http%3A%2F%2Fwww.etsy.com%2Flisting%2F89148845%2Fusb-typewriter-computer-keyboard&utm_content=etsy_finds_021512&utm_campa

Re: SQL Server 2008 connectivity problem

2012-02-17 Thread Stephen Russell
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Paul Hill wrote: > Olga, my contact in Moscow is very young, very blond, very hot, but > not exactly proficient in IT. --- 3 out of 4 makes her a good hire. -- Stephen Russell 901.246-0159 cell ___ P

Re: SQL Server 2008 connectivity problem

2012-02-17 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 2/16/2012 6:32 PM, Paul Hill wrote: > Olga, my contact in Moscow is very young, very blond, very hot, but > not exactly proficient in IT. NICE! Send us a picture sometime! lol ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: ht

RE: [NF] Very strong set of issues in Are You a Bad Programmer.

2012-02-17 Thread Charlie Coleman
At 10:03 AM 2/17/2012 -0500, Ken Dibble wrote: > >It has to be said, the use of parameters is pretty well accepted as best > >practice as far as I know, and I also agree with not re-inventing the > >wheel to sanitise input yourself when you could let the DB backend do > >it, and take advantage of

Re: [NF] Very strong set of issues in Are You a Bad Programmer.

2012-02-17 Thread Ken Dibble
> I still find it incredible that in 2012 there are people who > consider themselves professional developers who downplay security > concerns, and who ignore basic security practices. There are groups of > people with advanced PhDs in computing, networking and cryptography who > do not

RE: [NF] Very strong set of issues in Are You a Bad Programmer.

2012-02-17 Thread Alan Bourke
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Ken Dibble wrote: > > Comment characters are easy to strip out. Type-checking is also easy. If > we > could have a universal string delimiter, honestly, wouldn't something > like > that really be preferable to having to write hundreds of static queries, > vi

Re: [NF] Very strong set of issues in Are You a Bad Programmer.

2012-02-17 Thread Alan Bourke
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Ed Leafe wrote: > I still find it incredible that in 2012 there are people who consider > themselves professional developers who downplay security concerns, and who > ignore basic security practices. Look at the Playstation Network breaches last year.

Re: [NF] Very strong set of issues in Are You a Bad Programmer.

2012-02-17 Thread Paul McNett
On 2/17/12 8:52 AM, Ed Leafe wrote: > On Feb 17, 2012, at 10:48 AM, M Jarvis wrote: > >> Don't forget laziness or being a cheapskate Diligence is expensive... > > Secure programming practices are not expensive. They are just common > sense. > > Protecting data and systems from all

Re: Re: [NF] Very strong set of issues in Are You a Bad Programmer.

2012-02-17 Thread AndyD
Some (much?) of the blame must rest with the DBMS suppliers - Oracle *used* to be a rigorous cast-iron solid system, but in an attempt to match the new 'user friendly' upstart from ms they broke security and referential integrity with things like instead-of triggers on updateable views and even

Re: RE: [NF] Very strong set of issues in Are You a Bad Programmer.

2012-02-17 Thread AndyD
Surely what some of this discussion showed was that parameters (even Foxpro ?parms) do not need delimiters, and if a UI is used (a screen or even the ancient ACCEPT 'prompt' TO parm) then you don't even need to use delimiters to create the parameters? AndyD 8-)₹ On 17/02/2012 15:03, Ken Dibble

Re: Re: [NF] Very strong set of issues in Are You a Bad Programmer.

2012-02-17 Thread AndyD
Well yes, I remember your early posts appearing , but I just noticed that on the TIOBE Index [V]FP has dropped out of the top 50 - above NATURAL and MUMPS but below Q and Smalltalk, so I guess we're all on the slow train to nowhere, or already on another track. AndyD 8-)₹ On 17/02/2012 11:06, G

Re: [NF] Very strong set of issues in Are You a Bad Programmer.

2012-02-17 Thread Paul Hill
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Stephen Russell wrote: > The power of dynamic SQL ? > That is running with scissors. See "The Curse and Blessings of Dynamic SQL" http://www.sommarskog.se/dynamic_sql.html For what it's worth my C# code for saving a record is 95% the same as this. It looks auto-g

Re: [NF] Very strong set of issues in Are You a Bad Programmer.

2012-02-17 Thread Ed Leafe
On Feb 17, 2012, at 10:48 AM, M Jarvis wrote: > Don't forget laziness or being a cheapskate Diligence is expensive... Secure programming practices are not expensive. They are just common sense. Protecting data and systems from all possible forms of attack is certainly expen

RE: [NF] Very strong set of issues in Are You a Bad Programmer.

2012-02-17 Thread Lou Syracuse
My guess is the latter... or just plain stupidity. :( ls -Original Message- From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 8:40 AM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Very strong set of issues in Are

Re: [NF] Very strong set of issues in Are You a Bad Programmer.

2012-02-17 Thread Ed Leafe
On Feb 17, 2012, at 10:26 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: > The power of dynamic SQL ? > > That is running with scissors. I still find it incredible that in 2012 there are people who consider themselves professional developers who downplay security concerns, and who ignore basic security pr

Re: [NF] Very strong set of issues in Are You a Bad Programmer.

2012-02-17 Thread Stephen Russell
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Ken Dibble wrote: > > Yeah, we can let the DB back-end "do it", if we're willing to give up most > of the power that dynamic SQL makes available and resort to maintaining > hundreds of static queries or views. (As I understand it, you can't use ? > parameters to in

RE: [NF] Very strong set of issues in Are You a Bad Programmer.

2012-02-17 Thread Ken Dibble
>It has to be said, the use of parameters is pretty well accepted as best >practice as far as I know, and I also agree with not re-inventing the >wheel to sanitise input yourself when you could let the DB backend do >it, and take advantage of all the expertise and design that went into >it. Since

RE: VFP9 Decompiler

2012-02-17 Thread Lou Syracuse
It is not a retail product, I wouldn't even think of asking about it if it were. It is a one-time data transformation of our data that isn't working properly in a test environment, something that was written just for us to use. We pay these folks a LOT of money to use their system, and we ar

Re: VFP9 Decompiler

2012-02-17 Thread Frank Cazabon
Wow! Ethically I would say "no can do", unless getting them to fix it will take too long and affect your business. Frank. Frank Cazabon On 16/02/2012 12:49 PM, Lou Syracuse wrote: > Anybody have/using/can recommend a VFP decompiler? Please don't laugh > (too hard, anyway) > > We re

Re: [NF] Very strong set of issues in Are You a Bad Programmer.

2012-02-17 Thread Alan Bourke
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012, at 01:06 PM, Grigore Dolghin wrote: > I gave it a serious thought and I have concluded that is time for me to > move on. It was a nice journey - been subscribed to this list for 10 > years > by now, I believe. But everything has an end. > Cheerio then! -- Alan Bourke

Re: [NF] Very strong set of issues in Are You a Bad Programmer.

2012-02-17 Thread Grigore Dolghin
I gave it a serious thought and I have concluded that is time for me to move on. It was a nice journey - been subscribed to this list for 10 years by now, I believe. But everything has an end. I wish you all happy lives and happy programming. On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Alan Bourke wrote:

RE: [NF] Very strong set of issues in Are You a Bad Programmer.

2012-02-17 Thread Alan Bourke
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Grigore Dolghin wrote: > "bending design to use sqlparameters" should be read as > "doing > it right in the first place". It has to be said, the use of parameters is pretty well accepted as best practice as far as I know, and I also agree with not re-inventing

Re: [OT] Whoa, look at this! Bammer loses the prots and the Jews over conscience issue

2012-02-17 Thread Michael Madigan
77% of Jews voted for Obama in 2008, 77% of Jews will vote for him in 2012.   - Original Message - From: Pete Theisen To: ProFox Email List Cc: Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 1:27 AM Subject: [OT] Whoa, look at this! Bammer loses the prots and the Jews over conscience issue Hi Every

RE: VFP9 Decompiler

2012-02-17 Thread Dave Crozier
Decompiled source sent back.. Dave -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Lou Syracuse Sent: 16 February 2012 17:09 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: VFP9 Decompiler Thanks Dave, we appreciate that. I'll send it to you in a few