Re: [NF] Windows 10 phone to join VFP in the graveyard

2017-10-09 Thread Thierry Nivelet
Just a slight difference, VFP is still alive. Thierry Nivelet http://foxincloud.com/ Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud > Le 10 oct. 2017 à 04:06, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com a écrit : > > http://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-windows-10-mobile-what-comes-next-2017-

[NF] Windows 10 phone to join VFP in the graveyard

2017-10-09 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
http://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-windows-10-mobile-what-comes-next-2017-10 "Of course we'll continue to support the platform.. bug fixes, security updates, etc. But building new features/hw aren't the focus. 😟" https://twitter.com/joebelfiore/status/917071399541391360

Re: [NF] learn more about what you hate so much.

2017-10-09 Thread Paul Hemans
Thierry, You are correct. It is too theoretical I let my Christmas wish list get the better of me. On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 1:33 AM, Thierry Nivelet wrote: > Well, all this is too theoritical for me to contribute in any useful way. > > All I know is the level of difficulty to properly parse a lan

Re: [NF] learn more about what you hate so much.

2017-10-09 Thread Paul Hemans
Alan, For my tastes I find both Lianja and XSharp a little expensive, however it might well be justified as they need to run a business and develop a product. On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 12:10 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: > If anyone is just looking for VFP syntax in a more modern paradigm, > Lianja and X

Re: [NF] learn more about what you hate so much.

2017-10-09 Thread Paul Hemans
In the case of Google I think this was an honest to God look at the tech and the decision that it was better than Dart (Google's own version). I have to say it is a very impressive language, because it accommodates both strong and weak typing. So you can do things like import jQuery and get code co

Re: [NF] learn more about what you hate so much.

2017-10-09 Thread Thierry Nivelet
Well, all this is too theoritical for me to contribute in any useful way. All I know is the level of difficulty to properly parse a language; eg. VFP, we did some parsing for FAA; very difficult to make it structured, maintainable and reliable on the whole spread of cases. Transpiling would pr

Re: [NF] learn more about what you hate so much.

2017-10-09 Thread Alan Bourke
If anyone is just looking for VFP syntax in a more modern paradigm, Lianja and XSharp are right there. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/

Re: [NF] learn more about what you hate so much.

2017-10-09 Thread Paul Hemans
Interesting discussion thanks for your input. In my opinion, we have stagnated because the evolution of the community requires a roadmap that provides something that the old path could not do. Tech has moved on. I appreciate Chen's work but in my mind the future of coding is in a combination of Ob

Re: [NF] learn more about what you hate so much.

2017-10-09 Thread Thierry Nivelet
Le 09/10/2017 à 12:57, Paul Hemans a écrit : The VFP community which is now quite small Rather than small, I would say that the number of leaders is small, mainly because -- in my eyes -- the 'elite' of the community is reluctant to renew itself, and accept new members, new ideas, new ways to

Re: [NF] learn more about what you hate so much.

2017-10-09 Thread Thierry Nivelet
Hi Paul, Good news, if Googles enters the dance, Typescript is on good tracks to become a standard; good job Microsoft, there must have been a lot of negotiations behind the scene. However, I saw quite a bunch of open source projects in the JavaScript world that were frozen because the autho

Re: [NF] learn more about what you hate so much.

2017-10-09 Thread Alan Bourke
Being open source means that in theory yes, but the open source world is littered with half-finished, unpatched and abandoned projects because the developers wanted the new shiny or some financial reward. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm _

Re: [NF] learn more about what you hate so much.

2017-10-09 Thread Paul Hemans
Hi Thierry, I think you are looking at Typescript from the perspective of the VFP community which is now quite small, and for us to support it would be a huge challenge. However, if MS abandoned Typescript, it would be no problem because Typescript is now an official language at Google. Speaking o

Re: [NF] Replacing IE's "Export to Excel" in Edge

2017-10-09 Thread Ted Roche
On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 3:18 AM, Dave Crozier wrote: > As you have obviously found out, IE is still available with Windows 10 but > takes some finding! > > You can still make it your default browser though. > Thanks, Dave. *I* certainly can make it my default browser, although I certainly won't!

Re: [NF] learn more about what you hate so much.

2017-10-09 Thread Thierry Nivelet
Le 07/10/2017 à 22:29, Paul Hemans a écrit : But even if they decided to stop it someone could pick up the code and go on. With VFP we were simply stuffed. 'Open source' means the source is available. Well, theorically true, very difficult practically. As I mentioned earlier, all major contribu

RE: [NF] Replacing IE's "Export to Excel" in Edge

2017-10-09 Thread Dave Crozier
As you have obviously found out, IE is still available with Windows 10 but takes some finding! You can still make it your default browser though. Dave -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: 07 October 2017 21:59 To: profox@leafe.

RE: [NF] learn more about what you hate so much.

2017-10-09 Thread Dave Crozier
One thought I wonder if the outcome for VFP would be different had it existed as a mainstream product now. The folks who are involved in the "open source" movement in M$ obviously either don't know of the existence and power of VFP or have simply dismissed the product as end of life so you