RE: [NF] Cities struggle with wireless Internet

2007-05-25 Thread Michael Madigan
You'll never take me alive, copper. --- Alan Bourke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is the oT police! Step AWAY from the discussion > and put your hands > behind your head! > -- > Alan Bourke > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ___ > Post Messages to

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2007-05-25 Thread Alan Bourke
This is the oT police! Step AWAY from the discussion and put your hands behind your head! -- Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of

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2007-05-24 Thread Allen
I see said the blind man Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: 24 May 2007 21:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] Cities struggle with wireless Internet Read carefully CO2 is not the cause of Global Warming

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2007-05-24 Thread Michael Madigan
Read carefully CO2 is not the cause of Global Warming, increased solar radiation is. The polar icecaps are disapearing on Mars too, and they don't have nearly the number of SUVs are we do. WIFI is not the reason for bees abandoning their hives --- Graham Dobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

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2007-05-24 Thread Graham Dobson
> > Michael Madigan wrote: > >> Junk science rules >> >> CO2 causes global warming >> >> WIFI kills bees >> >> What will they think of next? Tropical insects are moving further north. Polar ice is breaking up. Ocean levels are rising. Across America bees are abandoning their hives. $15 billion

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2007-05-23 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
D] On Behalf Of Chet Gardiner Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 9:04 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Cities struggle with wireless Internet Dingoes Eat Their Babies...:-) Virgil Bierschwale wrote: > Fireants... > They eat their babies... > > > Virgil Bierschwale > htt

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2007-05-23 Thread Chet Gardiner
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Chet Gardiner > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 8:27 PM > To: profox@leafe.com > Subject: Re: [NF] Cities struggle with wireless Internet > > No one is saying it "kills bees". > > The hypothesis is that all of the stray RF MAY be throw

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2007-05-23 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
: [NF] Cities struggle with wireless Internet No one is saying it "kills bees". The hypothesis is that all of the stray RF MAY be throwing off their amazing navigation systems. They find flowers and get tell their fellows where they found them... It's not proved but it&#x

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2007-05-23 Thread Chet Gardiner
No one is saying it "kills bees". The hypothesis is that all of the stray RF MAY be throwing off their amazing navigation systems. They find flowers and get tell their fellows where they found them... It's not proved but it's surely possible... The FACTS are that bees are dying off and that

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2007-05-23 Thread Michael Madigan
Junk science rules CO2 causes global warming WIFI kills bees What will they think of next? --- Chet Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually I would expect the mammals to go with a > whimper not a bang... > > A million fold increase in RF radiation, mess up a > critically important >

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2007-05-23 Thread Jeff Johnson
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Virgil Bierschwale > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 12:10 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [NF] Cities struggle with wireless Internet > > There has always been problems w

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2007-05-23 Thread Chet Gardiner
t;> Allen >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>> Behalf Of Tristan Leask >>> Sent: 22 May 2007 12:23 >>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Subject: RE: [NF] Cities strug

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2007-05-23 Thread Chet Gardiner
that good >> for us. Says me with all that and more in the house. >> Allen >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of Tristan Leask >> Sent: 22 May 2007 12:23 >> To: [EMAIL PR

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2007-05-23 Thread Chet Gardiner
gt; many ways beyond what we understand and that the world is changing. > > Jim. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Alan Bourke > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 7:05 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [

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2007-05-23 Thread Chet Gardiner
EMAIL PROTECTED] >> On Behalf Of Allen >> Posted At: 22 May 2007 10:25 >> Posted To: Profox Archive >> Conversation: [NF] Cities struggle with wireless >> Internet >> Subject: RE: [NF] Cities struggle with wireless >> Internet &g

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2007-05-23 Thread Chet Gardiner
Actually I would expect the mammals to go with a whimper not a bang... A million fold increase in RF radiation, mess up a critically important species like bees, causes the destruction of major food supplies, increase in diseases; kabloowie, -- end of large mammals... MB Software Solutions wr

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2007-05-22 Thread Michael Madigan
Similar to people who are afraid to buy anything on-line due to the minuscule chance of having their credit card stolen. > > While medical science has never been able to > measure an effect due > to all of these supposed "dangerous" things, the > effects of stress > and worrying are well

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2007-05-22 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [NF] Cities struggle with wireless Internet If there's something wrong with wifi, then there's something wrong with cell phones and wireless phones. --- Tristan Leask <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That Panorama show was utter crap. A

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2007-05-22 Thread Michael Madigan
nvironment in > many ways beyond what we understand and that the > world is changing. > > Jim. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Alan Bourke > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 7:05 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTEC

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2007-05-22 Thread Michael Madigan
You get more EMF from hair dryers --- Alan Bourke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This sort of reminds me about how, in the days of > CRT monitors, how we > were all going to die from monitor radiation. > > > ___ > Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com >

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2007-05-22 Thread Michael Madigan
l hat tells me this! > > > > Tristan > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Paul Newton > Posted At: 22 May 2007 12:00 > Posted To: Profox Archive > Conversation: [NF] Cities struggle with wireless >

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2007-05-22 Thread Michael Madigan
is so much radiation > around it cant be that good > for us. Says me with all that and more in the house. > Allen > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Tristan Leask > Sent: 22 May 2007 12:23 > To: [EMAIL

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2007-05-22 Thread Michael Madigan
stan > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Allen > Posted At: 22 May 2007 10:25 > Posted To: Profox Archive > Conversation: [NF] Cities struggle with wireless > Internet > Subject: RE: [NF] Cities struggle wi

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2007-05-22 Thread Peter Cushing
Ed Leafe wrote: > IOW, worrying about these one-in-a-billion possibilities is far, far more > damaging than > just getting on and enjoying your life. > I'll drink to that ;-) Peter ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance:

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2007-05-22 Thread Ed Leafe
On May 22, 2007, at 10:12 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: >> Who's to say with 100% certainty that monitors have not caused >> health problems? > > Nobody for sure Jim, but it's the usual perception of risk thing and a > tiny, tiny risk. Everyone in our office once had those smoked-glass > screen covers,

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2007-05-22 Thread Alan Bourke
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05/22/wifi_science_bunk/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable

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2007-05-22 Thread Alan Bourke
Jim Dettman wrote: > Who's to say with 100% certainty that monitors have not caused > health problems? Nobody for sure Jim, but it's the usual perception of risk thing and a tiny, tiny risk. Everyone in our office once had those smoked-glass screen covers, yet half of them smoked. The BSE (mad

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2007-05-22 Thread Jim Dettman
rstand and that the world is changing. Jim. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Bourke Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 7:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] Cities struggle with wireless Internet This sort of reminds me about how, in t

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2007-05-22 Thread Michael Hawksworth
I did and came back a Zombie... ask my wife if you want proof! Regards Michael Hawksworth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Bourke Sent: 22 May 2007 12:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] Cities struggle with wireless Internet

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2007-05-22 Thread Michael Hawksworth
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tristan Leask Sent: 22 May 2007 11:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] Cities struggle with wireless Internet This programme... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/6674675.stm This response says

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2007-05-22 Thread Ray Heilman
>On 5/22/07, Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >I know I died from it. :) > >Allen > She turned me into a newt... ...I got better RayTheOtherRay <>< --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___

RE: [NF] Cities struggle with wireless Internet

2007-05-22 Thread Allen
I know I died from it. :) Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Bourke Sent: 22 May 2007 13:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] Cities struggle with wireless Internet This sort of reminds me about how, in the days of CRT

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2007-05-22 Thread Paul Newton
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Paul Newton > Posted At: 22 May 2007 12:00 > Posted To: Profox Archive > Conversation: [NF] Cities struggle with wireless Internet > Subject: Re: [NF] Cities struggle with wireless Internet > > The truth is

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2007-05-22 Thread Alan Bourke
This sort of reminds me about how, in the days of CRT monitors, how we were all going to die from monitor radiation. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list:

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2007-05-22 Thread Paul Newton
Alan Bourke wrote: > Allen wrote: > >> there is so much radiation around it cant be that good >> for us. >> > Why is radiation necessarily bad for you? Radiation from electronics > probably has tiny effects. Solar radiation is good for you in > moderation, isn't it? > Depends on which

RE: [NF] Cities struggle with wireless Internet

2007-05-22 Thread Tristan Leask
I'm never wrong! And my tinfoil hat tells me this! Tristan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Newton Posted At: 22 May 2007 12:00 Posted To: Profox Archive Conversation: [NF] Cities struggle with wireless Internet Subject: Re

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2007-05-22 Thread Paul Newton
Allen wrote: > Didn’t they also say there is no link to mobile phones and health. I think > its inverse scare mongering myself. What with radio phones, cell phones, > wifi, radio and tv, there is so much radiation around it cant be that good > for us. Says me with all that and more in the house. >

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2007-05-22 Thread Alan Bourke
Allen wrote: > there is so much radiation around it cant be that good > for us. Why is radiation necessarily bad for you? Radiation from electronics probably has tiny effects. Solar radiation is good for you in moderation, isn't it? ___ Post Messages

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2007-05-22 Thread Allen
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tristan Leask Sent: 22 May 2007 12:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] Cities struggle with wireless Internet This programme... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/6674675.stm This response says it all

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2007-05-22 Thread Tristan Leask
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen Posted At: 22 May 2007 11:17 Posted To: Profox Archive Conversation: [NF] Cities struggle with wireless Internet Subject: RE: [NF] Cities struggle with wireless Internet Where did you get that from ? Another panorama show ? :) Allen

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2007-05-22 Thread Allen
Where did you get that from ? Another panorama show ? :) Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tristan Leask Sent: 22 May 2007 11:49 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] Cities struggle with wireless Internet That Panorama show was

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2007-05-22 Thread Tristan Leask
wireless Internet Subject: RE: [NF] Cities struggle with wireless Internet Someone said that wifi was pretty bad and I think some schools have banned it. More harmful than mobile phones it said. Allen

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2007-05-22 Thread Allen
] Cities struggle with wireless Internet http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070521/ap_on_hi_te/municipal_wireless_woes Was widely available WiFi across big cities really a big deal to get anyway? It sounded like more headaches/hurdles than worth the promise, imo. And don't forget the harmful ef

[NF] Cities struggle with wireless Internet

2007-05-21 Thread MB Software Solutions
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070521/ap_on_hi_te/municipal_wireless_woes Was widely available WiFi across big cities really a big deal to get anyway? It sounded like more headaches/hurdles than worth the promise, imo. And don't forget the harmful effects to Mother Nature's bees! (Just kidding