[NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance?

2013-09-17 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
http://wallstcheatsheet.com/stocks/microsoft-gets-desperate-with-new-ipad-trade-in-promotion.html/ With numbers like those (where M$ has less than 4.5% of the tablet market with it's Pro and RT combined), it's not looking good for Surface. ___ Post Mes

Re: [NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance?

2013-09-17 Thread Stephen Russell
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:52 PM, MB Software Solutions General Account < mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote: > > http://wallstcheatsheet.com/stocks/microsoft-gets-desperate-with-new-ipad-trade-in-promotion.html/ > - I see the M$ Pezz dispenser that gives out

RE: [NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance?

2013-09-17 Thread Allen
I'm not surprised. Even with the price cuts, its twice the price it should be with a keyboard added. Al -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions General Account http://wallstcheatsheet.com/stocks/microsoft-gets-desperate-

Re: [NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance?

2013-09-18 Thread Alan Bourke
They were late to the tablet game - the RT is sort of pointless and the full Windows 8 tabs that should make a killing in the corporate world are too expensive. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailma

Re: [NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance?

2013-09-18 Thread Stephen Russell
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 5:08 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: > They were late to the tablet game - the RT is sort of pointless and the > full Windows 8 tabs that should make a killing in the corporate world > are too expensive. > > - > I agree that the device is too expensive. MPOV the M$ pr

Re: [NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance?

2013-09-18 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 9/18/2013 6:08 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: They were late to the tablet game - the RT is sort of pointless and the full Windows 8 tabs that should make a killing in the corporate world are too expensive. If M$ had priced them 1/2 of what they are, do you think the end-result would have been sig

Re: [NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance?

2013-09-18 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 9/18/2013 12:18 PM, Stephen Russell wrote: Apple had a heads up on the isses that iPhone apps didn't work as well on iPads and they were able to control what would be allowed and what needed to be tweaked by the software vendor. M$ doesn't have that radical control. It amazes me that Appl

RE: [NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance?

2013-09-18 Thread Allen
...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance? On 9/18/2013 6:08 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: > They were late to the tablet game - the RT is sort of pointless and > the full Windows 8 tabs that should make a killing in the corporate > world are too expensive. If M$ had priced th

RE: [NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance?

2013-09-18 Thread Allen
I wanted to control the apple version of the host file. And guess what, bloody ipad won't do it. Bluetooth sucks too. Al -Original Message- It amazes me that Apple has that much control, and they always made M$ out to be the big bad guy. Pot...meet Kettle. __

Re: [NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance?

2013-09-18 Thread G Gambill
Are any of the new windows operating systems VFP friendly? If so, which OS's and which VFP versions? The absences of VFP is a show stopper for me. On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 8:59 AM, MB Software Solutions, LLC < mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote: > On 9/18/2013 6:08 AM, Alan Bourke

Re: [NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance?

2013-09-18 Thread Mike Copeland
ices similar. I have a Motorola Driod X and it is different in several ways from the ASUS table...both running Andriod, although (obviously) different flavors. Mike Copeland ---- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance? From: G Gambill To: profoxt...@leaf

RE: [NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance?

2013-09-18 Thread Allen
I agree with your verdict on Win 8, and I would say better than win 7 which, here, has menu problems (some items not appearing until mouse over) However I would say the biggest problem with Android is the product suppliers. Samsung are crap at keeping up to date. They expect you to buy a new machin

Re: [NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance?

2013-09-18 Thread Mike Copeland
l be committing suicide if they don't make it free for everyone with Win8. Mike Copeland Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance? From: Allen To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 9/18/2013 12:31 PM I agree with your verdict on Win 8, and I would say bet

Re: [NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance?

2013-09-18 Thread Gene Wirchenko
At 09:36 2013-09-18, "MB Software Solutions, LLC" wrote: On 9/18/2013 12:18 PM, Stephen Russell wrote: Apple had a heads up on the isses that iPhone apps didn't work as well on iPads and they were able to control what would be allowed and what needed to be tweaked by the software vendor. M$

Re: [NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance?

2013-09-18 Thread Alan Bourke
> and there won't be anything we can do about it. Apart from putting the data on a low-cost Linux-based NAS device that runs Samba, somewhere on the network, that is. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com

Re: [NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance?

2013-09-18 Thread Mike Copeland
offer that after quite a bit of experience with the Google Apps Store, the Windows App Store was a shocker. Pretty much nothing available. Mike Copeland Original Message Subject: Re: [NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance? From: Alan Bourke To: profoxt...@leafe.com Date: 9/18

Re: [NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance?

2013-09-18 Thread Alan Bourke
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013, at 06:10 PM, G Gambill wrote: > Are any of the new windows operating systems VFP friendly? You mean on the tabs exclusively? Well, Windows RT no - it's a different codebase, on the ARM architecture. The non-RT tabs run Windows 8 as per desktop machines, so basically the sam

RE: [NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance?

2013-09-18 Thread Allen
The news is yes free to win 8 users. But pro is 199$ otherwise. And it seems M$ are not going to do upgrades. 199$ is it. New or XP. Now I feel right when I took advantage of the cheap upgrade when it came out. I got a whole heap of PC's here updated then. And the other news is its due in October,

Re: [NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance?

2013-09-18 Thread Mike Copeland
hing down near the clock... I would like to commend Lenovo on this tablet design though...very nice feel! Thin, light, but substantial. And the battery life is awesome...best guess is around 6 hours of playing video/audio non stop on Youtube. Mike Copeland ---- Original Message ----

Re: [NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance?

2013-09-18 Thread Dan Covill
On 09/18/13 10:39 AM, Mike Copeland wrote: Now if 24" monitors with touch-interface were under $200...I'd be on Win8 like a fly on a melted fudgesicle! I volunteer to help users at the local Retirement Home's computer lab. Last week a resident brought in a Gateway 27" All-in-One, with Windows

Re: [NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance?

2013-09-19 Thread Jean Laeremans
Interesting idea Dan. A+ jml On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 11:36 PM, Dan Covill wrote: > On 09/18/13 10:39 AM, Mike Copeland wrote: > >> >> Now if 24" monitors with touch-interface were under $200...I'd be on >> Win8 like a fly on a melted fudgesicle! >> >> I volunteer to help users at the local R

RE: [NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance?

2013-09-19 Thread Allen
They still charge touch screen prices though, well maybe more. Al -Original Message- > I volunteer to help users at the local Retirement Home's computer lab. Last week a resident brought in a Gateway 27" All-in-One, with Windows 8 and a touch screen, and donated it to the lab. He found

RE: [NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance?

2013-09-19 Thread Dave Crozier
back.. Now all I need is a Harley Davidson, long beard and a bandana Dave -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Allen Sent: 19 September 2013 08:08 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: [NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance? They still charge

Re: [NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance?

2013-09-19 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 19, 2013, at 2:23 AM, Dave Crozier wrote: > Geez, I'm becoming a Macophile... I blame Ed for introducing me to the > Mac in Atlanta at the Fox Devcon many years back. I've always been a corrupting influence! -- Ed Leafe ___ Post

Re: [NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance?

2013-09-19 Thread Peter Cushing
Alan Bourke wrote: and there won't be anything we can do about it. Apart from putting the data on a low-cost Linux-based NAS device that runs Samba, somewhere on the network, that is. As long as there's an RDP client you can still run your VFP app from anything. You do have to design

Re: [NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance?

2013-09-19 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 9/19/2013 10:18 AM, Peter Cushing wrote: Alan Bourke wrote: and there won't be anything we can do about it. Apart from putting the data on a low-cost Linux-based NAS device that runs Samba, somewhere on the network, that is. As long as there's an RDP client you can still run your VFP app

Re: [NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance?

2013-09-20 Thread Paul Hill
On 20 September 2013 15:57, Dave Crozier wrote: > However I have had a request for a system on Win 8.1 which I have hust > installed on a VM (uuugh ... not much better than 8 methinks) so I'll be > revisiting it next week and kicking it back into action. Be careful with the 8.1 update. My boss

RE: [NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance?

2013-09-20 Thread Dave Crozier
September 2013 16:03 To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance? On 20 September 2013 15:57, Dave Crozier wrote: > However I have had a request for a system on Win 8.1 which I have hust > installed on a VM (uuugh ... not much better than 8 methinks) so I

RE: [NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance?

2013-09-20 Thread Dave Crozier
ndows Surface have a chance? On 9/19/2013 10:18 AM, Peter Cushing wrote: > Alan Bourke wrote: >>> and there won't be anything we can do about it. >> >> Apart from putting the data on a low-cost Linux-based NAS device that >> runs Samba, somewhere on the network, that i

RE: [NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance?

2013-09-20 Thread Dave Crozier
VFP front end that would look and feel just like Win8 and i cracked the most of it. Dave -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions, LLC Sent: 20 September 2013 16:23 To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] Does Windows Surface have

Re: [NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance?

2013-09-20 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 9/20/2013 10:57 AM, Dave Crozier wrote: Mike, I progressed a little from the initial concept but it is still a work in progress as I decided to concentrate the system on Android development for the application in question. However I have had a request for a system on Win 8.1 which I have hu

RE: [NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance?

2013-09-20 Thread Dave Crozier
He OBVIOUSLY didn't read the installation instructions I guess! Dave -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hill Sent: 20 September 2013 16:03 To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance? On 20 September 20

RE: [NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance?

2013-09-20 Thread John Weller
But surely the instructions are merely the manufacturer's opinion :-) John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 > > He OBVIOUSLY didn't read the installation instructions I guess! > ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http

Re: [NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance?

2013-09-20 Thread Paul Hill
t: 20 September 2013 16:03 > To: ProFox Email List > Subject: Re: [NF] Does Windows Surface have a chance? > > On 20 September 2013 15:57, Dave Crozier wrote: >> However I have had a request for a system on Win 8.1 which I have hust >> installed on a VM (uuugh ... not much be