Re: [NF] Is it possible to build an expert programmer in only 16 weeks?

2006-08-11 Thread Chet Gardiner
This reminds me of the old saying about IBM's coders; They believe that if it takes 9 months for one woman to make a baby it would only take a month if they use 9 women. In this case they take engineers who don't know shit about the real world 16 weeks of intensive coding training. Big whoop

Re: [NF] Is it possible to build an expert programmer in only 16 weeks?

2006-08-11 Thread Andy Davies
Chet G said "Change "Programmer" to "Coder" and it's probably accurate..." I don't think so - read some of the comments on the link: these people are the best engineering graduates from top Indian Univerities - add 16 weeks of 6x12 programming bootcamp and you'll get someone who's a lot more exper

Re: [NF] Is it possible to build an expert programmer in only 16 weeks?

2006-08-10 Thread Chet Gardiner
Aw, damn, I wasn't going to add anything but then I found this article http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,25689-2305849,00.html Chet Gardiner wrote: Naw, I'm retired... MB Software Solutions wrote: Ted Roche wrote: I'll wager those kids get more and better quality training than a l

Re: [NF] Is it possible to build an expert programmer in only 16 weeks?

2006-08-10 Thread Chet Gardiner
Naw, I'm retired... MB Software Solutions wrote: Ted Roche wrote: I'll wager those kids get more and better quality training than a lot of us did. Exactly one of my points...it'd be great if the US did that with its peoplebut Corporate American is too busy selling out our futures to b

Re: [NF] Is it possible to build an expert programmer in only 16 weeks?

2006-08-10 Thread Chet Gardiner
Change "Programmer" to "Coder" and it's probably accurate... MB Software Solutions wrote: http://www.membox.com/brainbox/us/home.nsf/link/08082006-Is-it-possible-to-build-an-expert-programmer-in-only-16-weeks or *http://tinyurl.com/lgldm* grr.

RE: [NF] Is it possible to build an expert programmer in only 16 weeks?

2006-08-10 Thread Stephen the Cook
MB Software Solutions <> wrote: > http://www.membox.com/brainbox/us/home.nsf/link/08082006-Is-it-possible-to-b uild-an-expert-programmer-in-only-16-weeks > > or > > *http://tinyurl.com/lgldm* > > grr. Friends of ours have told us about their daughter who working at Thomas & Betts. She

Re: [NF] Is it possible to build an expert programmer in only 16 weeks?

2006-08-09 Thread MB Software Solutions
Ted Roche wrote: I'll wager those kids get more and better quality training than a lot of us did. Exactly one of my points...it'd be great if the US did that with its peoplebut Corporate American is too busy selling out our futures to be thinking of that. (Cue Chet and the arguments aga

Re: [NF] Is it possible to build an expert programmer in only 16 weeks?

2006-08-09 Thread MB Software Solutions
Vince Teachout wrote: MB Software Solutions wrote: *http://tinyurl.com/lgldm* grr. Piece o' cake. Didn't you ever watch "Karate Kid?" Wise old Miyagi took a bumbling 13 year old and turned him into a black belt level fighter in just 6 easy weeks, bypassing the years of training i

Re: [NF] Is it possible to build an expert programmer in only 16 weeks?

2006-08-09 Thread Ted Roche
On 8/9/06, MB Software Solutions <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sure, it's possible. The Navy turns sailors into nuclear power plant operators in 24 weeks. Twenty-four very intense weeks. But they don't put them in charge right away. (They don't let them touch anything right away.) And they start wi

Re: [NF] Is it possible to build an expert programmer in only 16 weeks?

2006-08-09 Thread Vince Teachout
MB Software Solutions wrote: *http://tinyurl.com/lgldm* grr. Piece o' cake. Didn't you ever watch "Karate Kid?" Wise old Miyagi took a bumbling 13 year old and turned him into a black belt level fighter in just 6 easy weeks, bypassing the years of training it would normally take.

Re: [NF] Is it possible to build an expert programmer in only 16 weeks?

2006-08-09 Thread MB Software Solutions
MB Software Solutions wrote: http://www.membox.com/brainbox/us/home.nsf/link/08082006-Is-it-possible-to-build-an-expert-programmer-in-only-16-weeks or *http://tinyurl.com/lgldm* grr. They've even got a term for it now: "Bangalored" :["If you are finding it difficult to envisa

[NF] Is it possible to build an expert programmer in only 16 weeks?

2006-08-09 Thread MB Software Solutions
http://www.membox.com/brainbox/us/home.nsf/link/08082006-Is-it-possible-to-build-an-expert-programmer-in-only-16-weeks or *http://tinyurl.com/lgldm* grr. -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com "Work smarter, not harder, w