[OT] Once again a gun saves a life

2006-06-21 Thread Michael Madigan
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2006-06-21 Thread Jason
Michael Madigan wrote: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/metro/3989147.html In related news, the U.N. will try to ensure that unneeded deaths like this do not continue. http://www.hawaiireporter.com/story.aspx?9dcc90ec-c64d-40a4-a3c9-a4edd3e332d6 Of course if they had any author

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2006-06-21 Thread Leland Jackson
I don't think a majority of UN ambassador would support a UN law that made small arm defensive weapons illegal. The right to self defense should be a fundamental right. Even if such a law were passed, it would be impossible to enforced. Can you imagine trying to disarm the citizens of Iraq,

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2006-06-21 Thread Leland Jackson
I would be happier if the UN made wmd illegal for every country around the world, including the US. Then we could begin disarming the nuclear, chemical, and biological weapon that could lead to extenstion of the human race. Regards, LelandJ Jason wrote: Michael Madigan wrote: http://ww

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2006-06-21 Thread Leland Jackson
After all the wmd have been destroyed, the UN could make war illegal. LOL Regards, LelandJ Leland Jackson wrote: I would be happier if the UN made wmd illegal for every country around the world, including the US. Then we could begin disarming the nuclear, chemical, and biological weapon th

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2006-06-21 Thread Dominic Burford
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: 21 June 2006 18:57 To: ProFox Email List Subject: [OT] Once again a gun saves a life http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/metro/3989147.html New Lower Prices * Horse R

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2006-06-22 Thread Beelzebub
22 June 2006 07:50 To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] Once again a gun saves a life Huh!! It saves one life, by claiming aother like in the process. If neither one had been armed with guns, both would have survived. I don't see your point. Regards Dominic Burford BSc Hons MBCS CITP

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2006-06-22 Thread Michael Madigan
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2006-06-22 Thread Dominic Burford
omplicated that there are no obvious deficiencies." -- Tony Hoare, Turing Award Lecture 1980 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: 22 June 2006 08:14 To: ProFox Email List Subject: RE: [OT] Once again a gun saves a life

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2006-06-22 Thread petetheisen
Dominic Burford wrote: Huh!! It saves one life, by claiming aother like in the process. If neither one had been armed with guns, both would have survived. I don't see your point. Hi Dominic! The criminals *will* be armed with guns. Naive to expect them not to be. Regards, Pete _

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2006-06-22 Thread petetheisen
Dominic Burford wrote: << Because the criminal will always have the gun and only the law-abiding would turn their's in. That is not the point you were making. You posted a link to an article which you indicated described how a gun saved a life. The story describes how a burglar is killed by t

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2006-06-22 Thread Dominic Burford
re, Turing Award Lecture 1980 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of petetheisen Sent: 22 June 2006 09:46 To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Once again a gun saves a life Dominic Burford wrote: > Huh!! It saves one life, by claiming aother

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2006-06-22 Thread Dave Crozier
ch" - Bill Bryson -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of petetheisen Sent: 22 June 2006 09:59 To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Once again a gun saves a life Dominic Burford wrote: > << Because the criminal will always have

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2006-06-22 Thread Stephen the Cook
petetheisen <> wrote: > Every lawfully owned gun has saved many lives, and will continue to > save more lives, usually by deterrence. Every burglar is a murder > waiting to happen, the sooner each burglar is killed, or scared > straight, the better. It would be nice if the police would kill them

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2006-06-22 Thread Leland Jackson
Whoops, I was referring to an extinction level event here.Sorry Pete, but I bet you to this one; although, I'm sure I will still hear something from you. Regards, LelandJ Leland Jackson wrote: I would be happier if the UN made wmd illegal for every country around the world, including th

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2006-06-22 Thread Michael Madigan
1980 > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Michael Madigan > Sent: 22 June 2006 08:14 > To: ProFox Email List > Subject: RE: [OT] Once again a gun saves a life > > Because the criminal will always have the g

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2006-06-22 Thread Michael Madigan
gt; > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of petetheisen > Sent: 22 June 2006 09:46 > To: ProFox Email List > Subject: Re: [OT] Once again a gun saves a life > > Dominic Burford wrote: > > Huh!! It saves

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2006-06-22 Thread Michael Madigan
gt; > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of petetheisen > Sent: 22 June 2006 09:46 > To: ProFox Email List > Subject: Re: [OT] Once again a gun saves a life > > Dominic Burford wrote: > > Huh!! It saves

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2006-06-23 Thread petetheisen
Dominic Burford wrote: Hi Dominic! Your point is wrong, the criminal will have a gun and he will kill - however you might wish otherwise, but your point is beside the point anyway. This is *WAY* too important to split hairs about what argument Michael may or may not have been making. The fac

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2006-06-23 Thread Dominic Burford
s to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies." -- Tony Hoare, Turing Award Lecture 1980 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of petetheisen Sent: 22 June 2006 11:07 To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Once again a gun s

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2006-06-23 Thread petetheisen
Dave Crozier wrote: we should all go out and buy f*ck off big rocket propelled grenade launchers and we'd all be completely safe in our homes. Dominic is perfectly correct in his statement regarding the absence Hi Dave! Dominic is never correct about guns :-) RPGs have too much power for home

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2006-06-23 Thread petetheisen
Stephen the Cook wrote: You are a very disturbed man Pete. Hi Stephen! Disturbed? I used to be disturbed but a psychiatrist cured me. I used to even wear a funny hat, but no more. Regards, Pete ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscript

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2006-06-23 Thread Paul Hill
On 6/23/06, petetheisen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The criminals *will* be tooled up as you put it. We have to be ready. Seems to me that the UK and Australia have taken away the guns. They were never really taken away as few had them in the first place. I don't know anyone who has owned a gun.

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2006-06-24 Thread petetheisen
Paul Hill wrote: On 6/23/06, petetheisen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The criminals *will* be tooled up as you put it. We have to be ready. Seems to me that the UK and Australia have taken away the guns. They were never really taken away as few had them in the first place. I don't know anyone w

Re: [OT] Once again a gun saves a life

2006-06-24 Thread Paul Hill
On 6/24/06, petetheisen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I didn't say "gun crime", I said crime. Crime is up in the UK and Australia, or at least it is reported to be. Which is nothing to do with the changes in gun laws. As I said, in the UK it's extremely rare (and always has been) to own a gun.

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2006-06-25 Thread petetheisen
Paul Hill wrote: On 6/24/06, petetheisen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I didn't say "gun crime", I said crime. Crime is up in the UK and Australia, or at least it is reported to be. Which is nothing to do with the changes in gun laws. As I said, in the UK it's extremely rare (and always has b