Re: Intro to Servoy for Visual FoxPro ISVs - with Ken Levy

2011-07-11 Thread Thierry Nivelet
FoxInCloud is the third avatar of a project started ten years ago: Intuicat (specific DB & controls, read only), Zenbuyer (specific DB & controls, read-write), and finally FoxInCloud (any DB & controls, read-write). FWIW, back in 2006, in some AJAX presentation he gave to his VFP user group, D

Re: Intro to Servoy for Visual FoxPro ISVs - with Ken Levy

2011-07-11 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 7/11/2011 5:28 PM, Thierry Nivelet wrote: > All controls are supported right now except timer, toolbar and formset; the 3 > latter are just a matter of time to spend on developping support, no other > issue involved. > > Timer will be supported, VFP timer() method executed when timer elapses o

Re: Intro to Servoy for Visual FoxPro ISVs - with Ken Levy

2011-07-11 Thread Thierry Nivelet
All controls are supported right now except timer, toolbar and formset; the 3 latter are just a matter of time to spend on developping support, no other issue involved. Timer will be supported, VFP timer() method executed when timer elapses on client browser. Pageframe is indeed supported, you

Re: Intro to Servoy for Visual FoxPro ISVs - with Ken Levy

2011-07-11 Thread Stephen Russell
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Thierry Nivelet wrote: > You see it just right Mike, > > FoxInCloud is in production on several apps; latest has 50 forms, 35 reports, > PostGreSql database, XFRX, foxcalendar and foxcharts among others. > > Users can edit data in grid, preview/print any report, a

Re: Intro to Servoy for Visual FoxPro ISVs - with Ken Levy

2011-07-11 Thread Mike Copeland
For what it's worth, I just got a notice yesterday from Polderbits software...they have just released their new video recording software package, capable of recording screen capture for software demo's and training. http://www.polderbits.com/ I haven't tried the new video recorder, but I have

Re: Intro to Servoy for Visual FoxPro ISVs - with Ken Levy

2011-07-11 Thread Thierry Nivelet
You see it just right Mike, FoxInCloud is in production on several apps; latest has 50 forms, 35 reports, PostGreSql database, XFRX, foxcalendar and foxcharts among others. Users can edit data in grid, preview/print any report, and anything else they usually do in a VFP app. Asap we'll cast a

Re: Intro to Servoy for Visual FoxPro ISVs - with Ken Levy

2011-07-11 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 7/10/2011 11:26 PM, Stephen Russell wrote: > Middle tier doesn't care one way or another is on the the request of > services. Sorry but getCustomerList() just delivers a list just as > saveCust(custObject) will either insert or update a customer row. > > All of this aside the GUI has no bearing

Re: Intro to Servoy for Visual FoxPro ISVs - with Ken Levy

2011-07-11 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 7/9/2011 3:13 PM, Dan Covill wrote: > On 7/8/2011 10:02 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: >> Why would you pigeon hole yourself into desktop only and not take >> advantage of single code base for web or desktop? >> >> I know that there is a huge diff between a GUI for browsers and for >> desktops so I

Re: Intro to Servoy for Visual FoxPro ISVs - with Ken Levy

2011-07-10 Thread Stephen Russell
On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 11:40 PM, Dan Covill wrote: > On 7/9/2011 7:36 PM, Stephen Russell wrote: >> Sorry Dan but you are confusing data from GUI.  It should not matter >> what is asking for data. > > Stephen: > > Let my try to be clearer. > > What is "asking for data" is the guts of the applicati

Re: Intro to Servoy for Visual FoxPro ISVs - with Ken Levy

2011-07-09 Thread Dan Covill
On 7/9/2011 7:36 PM, Stephen Russell wrote: > Sorry Dan but you are confusing data from GUI. It should not matter > what is asking for data. Stephen: Let my try to be clearer. What is "asking for data" is the guts of the application, which is the middle tier - the business object. In the othe

Re: Intro to Servoy for Visual FoxPro ISVs - with Ken Levy

2011-07-09 Thread Stephen Russell
On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Dan Covill wrote: > On 7/8/2011 10:02 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: >> Why would you pigeon hole yourself into desktop only and not take >> advantage of single code base for web or desktop? >> >> I know that there is a huge diff between a GUI for browsers and for >> de

Re: Intro to Servoy for Visual FoxPro ISVs - with Ken Levy

2011-07-09 Thread Dan Covill
On 7/8/2011 10:02 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: > Why would you pigeon hole yourself into desktop only and not take > advantage of single code base for web or desktop? > > I know that there is a huge diff between a GUI for browsers and for > desktops so I wonder how they say it can work either way. O

Re: Intro to Servoy for Visual FoxPro ISVs - with Ken Levy

2011-07-08 Thread Stephen Russell
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Dan Covill wrote: > On 7/8/2011 6:47 AM, Grigore Dolghin wrote: >> 10k per server per year? that's insanely expensive for a "logical >> evolution for Visual FoxPro", given the fact VFP was about 600 USD, >> royalty free. > > They ain't in it for their health, are t

Re: Intro to Servoy for Visual FoxPro ISVs - with Ken Levy

2011-07-08 Thread Dan Covill
On 7/8/2011 6:47 AM, Grigore Dolghin wrote: > 10k per server per year? that's insanely expensive for a "logical > evolution for Visual FoxPro", given the fact VFP was about 600 USD, > royalty free. They ain't in it for their health, are they? My gripe is that the only similarity Servoy has to V

Re: Intro to Servoy for Visual FoxPro ISVs - with Ken Levy

2011-07-08 Thread Grigore Dolghin
10k per server per year? that's insanely expensive for a "logical evolution for Visual FoxPro", given the fact VFP was about 600 USD, royalty free. On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Allen wrote: > Clever get someone to repair it for you. neat plan :) > still remains costly per seat though. I mu

Re: Intro to Servoy for Visual FoxPro ISVs - with Ken Levy

2011-07-08 Thread Allen
Clever get someone to repair it for you. neat plan :) still remains costly per seat though. I much prefer the buy it and sell apps of VFP. Or even .net which the free version works fine for most things. Al -Original Message- On Jul 8, 2011, at 8:08 AM, Allen wrote: > How can it be

Re: Intro to Servoy for Visual FoxPro ISVs - with Ken Levy

2011-07-08 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jul 8, 2011, at 8:08 AM, Allen wrote: > How can it be open source and paid for? Open source software is free as in freedom, not necessarily free as in beer. There are many open source projects that cost money to use; the benefit of open source is that you can see what you're running

Re: Intro to Servoy for Visual FoxPro ISVs - with Ken Levy

2011-07-08 Thread Allen
How can it be open source and paid for? Al -Original Message- From: Alan Bourke Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 1:02 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: Intro to Servoy for Visual FoxPro ISVs - with Ken Levy Well, it's open source now, it's Eclipse-integrated, uses JavaSc

Re: Intro to Servoy for Visual FoxPro ISVs - with Ken Levy

2011-07-08 Thread Alan Bourke
Well, it's open source now, it's Eclipse-integrated, uses JavaScrip, has a community/evaluation edition and is cross-platform, so that's all good. The server licencing pricing still seems insane. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm __

Re: Intro to Servoy for Visual FoxPro ISVs - with Ken Levy

2011-07-08 Thread Allen
ro to Servoy for Visual FoxPro ISVs - with Ken Levy On Jul 8, 2011, at 6:39 AM, Allen wrote: > There is also a discussion on LinkedIn. Don't know why Ken Levy is > involved > other than a figurehead. Servoy has been targeting VFP devs for some time now, and Ken's name adds

Re: Intro to Servoy for Visual FoxPro ISVs - with Ken Levy

2011-07-08 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jul 8, 2011, at 6:39 AM, Allen wrote: > There is also a discussion on LinkedIn. Don't know why Ken Levy is involved > other than a figurehead. Servoy has been targeting VFP devs for some time now, and Ken's name adds a lot of credibility to their efforts. He probably also knows how t

Re: Intro to Servoy for Visual FoxPro ISVs - with Ken Levy

2011-07-08 Thread Allen
There is also a discussion on LinkedIn. Don't know why Ken Levy is involved other than a figurehead. As far as I'm concerned its too expensive. Al -Original Message- From: Ed Leafe > I got the email below from Ken Levy. Anyone know anything about Servoy? Since Servoy has been marketing

Re: Intro to Servoy for Visual FoxPro ISVs - with Ken Levy

2011-07-08 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jul 7, 2011, at 6:43 PM, wrote: > I got the email below from Ken Levy. Anyone know anything about Servoy? Since Servoy has been marketing to VFP devs for several years now, there has been a bit of discussion on the list about them. Search the archives for 'Servoy' and you'll be abl

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2011-07-07 Thread kamcginnis
I got the email below from Ken Levy. Anyone know anything about Servoy? -Original Message- From: Ken Levy [mailto:fox...@servoy.us] Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 1:51 PM Subject: Intro to Servoy for Visual FoxPro ISVs - with Ken Levy Hi, My understanding is that you may still have one