ack to you, no harm, no foul my friend.
Gil
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On Mar 18, 2008, at 10:28 AM, Alan Bourke wrote:
> Is that due to preference, a lack of IDEs for Python though?
>
> In terms of development, I would be IDE all the way for anything
> involving a graphical UI.
I think you're confusing an IDE with visual design tools. IDEs are
start-to-f
On Tuesday, March 18, 2008 11:59 AM Paul M¢Nett wrote:
>I don't know about Java, but in the Python world we have access to great
>debugging, profiling, and introspection tools. But the simple
>fact is
>this: 99% of the time I use print statements (probably just the same as
>ConsoleWrite) because
Paul M¢Nett wrote:
> I don't know about Java, but in the Python world we have access to great
> debugging, profiling, and introspection tools. But the simple fact is
> this: 99% of the time I use print statements (probably just the same as
> ConsoleWrite) because it is is simply faster to code, t
Alan Bourke wrote:
> David Crooks wrote:
>
>> They are and shouldn't we also be doing unit tests???
>>
>
> Well, there's arguments for and against like everything else.
>
>
Alan Stevens presentation on FoxUnit TDD at last year's FoxForward 2K7
conference was great (and I think his se
MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:
> David Crooks wrote:
>> Yepper. I think it is not knowing how to use the debugger and for the
>> most part they came from a Java world. Still I would have thought that
>> even the older versions of .NET the debugger was a pretty strong tool
>> even com
David Crooks wrote:
> They are and shouldn't we also be doing unit tests???
Well, there's arguments for and against like everything else.
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On Tuesday, March 18, 2008 11:42 AM Alan Bourke wrote:
>Don't forget that Java is not tied to one IDE. So for example if you
were using NetBeans, for example, there is absolutely a fully-
>featured debugger.
That is kinda what I thought as well...
>They may be using Console.WriteLine because th
MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:
> Does the Java world not have a debugger but instead have to rely on
> ConsoleWrite (equivalents)?
Don't forget that Java is not tied to one IDE. So for example if you
were using NetBeans, for example, there is absolutely a fully-featured
debugger
Paul M¢Nett wrote:
> I don't really know, and IDEs and CLIs aren't mutually exclusive,
> either. It probably depends on what sampling of 'people' you take. Ask a
> group of Visual Studio or Java developers, and I'll bet you'll get near
> 100% preference for IDEs. Ask the same question of a group
On Tuesday, March 18, 2008 11:20 AM Jean Laeremans wrote:
>http://www.debugtools.com/
I said I could be wrong...
David L. Crooks
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On Tuesday, March 18, 2008 10:54 AM Michael wrote:
>Does the Java world not have a debugger but instead have to rely on
ConsoleWrite (equivalents)? I could not imagine going back to the
>days of that kind of crap instead of using the Debugger.
I don't know. My impression is that the tools for
David Crooks wrote:
> Yepper. I think it is not knowing how to use the debugger and for the
> most part they came from a Java world. Still I would have thought that
> even the older versions of .NET the debugger was a pretty strong tool
> even compared to VFP.
>
Does the Java world not have a
On Tuesday, March 18, 2008 10:31 AM Michael wrote:
>Not using the debugger but instead using ConsoleWrites? WTF!? That
sounds so backward to me!! Now I don't want to be accused of
>spreading FUD, so let me ask clearly: are they saying that the
debugger that comes with .Net is not good enough
David Crooks wrote:
> I went to .Net user group meeting last week and the presenter said that is
> team of developers do not use the debugger. Instead they use tests and
> ConsoleWrites to find out what is going on. He said it took too long to get
> to the problem area of the code. To me is it
On Tuesday, March 18, 2008 9:56 AM Paul M¢Nett wrote:
>>MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:
>>
>> Do you think most people prefer to use IDEs or command lines (CLIs)?
>I don't really know, and IDEs and CLIs aren't mutually exclusive, either. It
>probably depends on what sampling of 'peo
Paul M¢Nett wrote:
>
>> Do you think most people prefer to use IDEs or command lines (CLIs)?
>>
>
> I don't really know, and IDEs and CLIs aren't mutually exclusive,
> either. It probably depends on what sampling of 'people' you take. Ask a
> group of Visual Studio or Java developers, and I'
Gil Hale wrote:
>> This has nothing to do with what people see. You're not answering the
>> question as it's written!! Read it EXACTLY without any inferences!
>>
>>
>
> I was not trying to answer a question at all. I was merely expressing an
> opinion from my perspective, based on my observ
MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:
> Paul M¢Nett wrote:
>> MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:
>>> Would you say that you're the norm or the exception?
>>>
>> Please rephrase the question. It somehow sounds kind of loaded.
>>
>
> Do you think most people prefer to use IDEs
Hadn't seen ZipGenius before - the interface is way better than 7-Zip.
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> Gil Hale wrote:
> >> Do you think most people prefer to use IDEs or comman
Gil Hale wrote:
>> Do you think most people prefer to use IDEs or command lines (CLIs)?
>>
>>
>
> For me I really do not worry about what most people want. I do not mind
> working in an IDE for one off stuff. But for my automated routines I have my
> VFP apps build the various batch files
t's ass if anyone sees I am not using an IDE
or not ...
Gil
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Paul M¢Nett wrote:
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>> Paul M¢Nett wrote:
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>>> I'll use elements of things you find in an IDE separately, such as a
>>> debugger, an editor, and a visual layout designer. But I launch those
>>> things from the command line as needed.
>>>
>
MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:
> Paul M¢Nett wrote:
>> I'll use elements of things you find in an IDE separately, such as a
>> debugger, an editor, and a visual layout designer. But I launch those
>> things from the command line as needed.
>>
>> When maintaining my VFP apps, I'll us
Paul M¢Nett wrote:
>
> I'll use elements of things you find in an IDE separately, such as a
> debugger, an editor, and a visual layout designer. But I launch those
> things from the command line as needed.
>
> When maintaining my VFP apps, I'll use the VFP IDE.
>
> Other than that, 99% of my work
MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:
> Paul M¢Nett wrote:
>>
>> I see the appeal of a rich IDE, but now that I'm good at vim and the
>> command line, I can't see ever wanting to use an IDE again.
>>
>>
>
>
> ...for ANYTHING?
I'll use elements of things you find in an IDE separately,
Paul M¢Nett wrote:
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> I see the appeal of a rich IDE, but now that I'm good at vim and the
> command line, I can't see ever wanting to use an IDE again.
>
>
...for ANYTHING?
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> On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 10:58 PM, Paul M¢Nett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi Carl!
>>
>>> This question was raised a couple of months ago - I believe it was Paul
>> > McNett who suggested Zip Genuis - totally free - can work from command
>> line
>> > - supposed to handle a b
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 10:58 PM, Paul M¢Nett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Carl!
>
> > This question was raised a couple of months ago - I believe it was Paul
> > McNett who suggested Zip Genuis - totally free - can work from command line
> > - supposed to handle a bunch of compression formats
I also use blowfish encryption (I
think 256bit), and it does a great job, quick - dirty - simple...
Gil
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Hi Carl!
> This question was raised a couple of months ago - I believe it was Paul
> McNett who suggested Zip Genuis - totally free - can work from command line
> - supposed to handle a bunch of compression formats.
Nope, wasn't me... I use the command line for archiving/unarchiving.
This is tar,
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> BD Operating Systems, Inc. wrote:
> > This question was raised a couple of months ago - I believe it was Paul
> > McNett wh
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BD Operating Systems, Inc. wrote:
> This question was raised a couple of months ago - I believe it was Paul
> McNett who suggested Zip Genuis - totally free - can work from command line
> - supposed to handle a bunch of compression formats.
>
>
I'd love to see a comparison chart for it with oth
This question was raised a couple of months ago - I believe it was Paul
McNett who suggested Zip Genuis - totally free - can work from command line
- supposed to handle a bunch of compression formats.
Carl Lindner
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ZipGenius www.zipgenius.it
Free, supports CLI, supports true encryption, creates .zip files in varying
degrees of compression, creates self-extracting .exe files, supports Context
Menu selection within Windows File Explorer, etc. I no longer license
WinZip Pro, I am using this exclusively for ne
Jim Harvey wrote:
> Any recommendations on freeware to be used to unzip, and zip file(s)...
>
Have some open source:
http://www.7-zip.org/
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> Rar works well.
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> Any recommendations on freeware to be
If you're looking for a VFP solution, then I'd recommend Craig Boyd's
VFPCompression library.
http://tinyurl.com/27zok8
Jim Harvey wrote:
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Rar works well.
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Any recommendations on freeware to be used to unzip, and zip file(s)...
Jam
Jim Harvey wrote:
> Any recommendations on freeware to be used to unzip, and zip file(s)...
>
>
7-zip. Google it...I use it with my softwares for bug reporting and
screen image capturing...it's great. You can even encrypt zips.
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