RE: [NF] Late fees

2007-12-08 Thread Allen
It will certainly make ebay richer and allow them to continue the careless attitude they have to piracy. Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: 08 December 2007 02:31 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] Late fees

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2007-12-07 Thread Michael Madigan
That is a cool feature. I've been selling some stuff on eBay and it's cool to have the cash instantly. --- Kristyne McDaniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Madigan, > > > Well she does send her invoices 10 days or more > before > > they're due. > > > > I've tried to talk her into using PayPal,

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2007-12-07 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Madigan, > Well she does send her invoices 10 days or more before > they're due. > > I've tried to talk her into using PayPal, but as of > yet that hasn't happened. There's also that 3% fee. It sounds like she's doing everything short of EFT debits, and perhaps that is as good as it gets. I don

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2007-12-06 Thread Michael Madigan
Well she does send her invoices 10 days or more before they're due. I've tried to talk her into using PayPal, but as of yet that hasn't happened. There's also that 3% fee. --- Kristyne McDaniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Madigan, > > > She's only been stiffed a few times, so it isn't > tha

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2007-12-06 Thread Michael Madigan
Well she does send her invoices 10 days or more before they're due. I've tried to talk her into using PayPal, but as of yet that hasn't happened. There's also that 3% fee. --- Kristyne McDaniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Madigan, > > > She's only been stiffed a few times, so it isn't > tha

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2007-12-06 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Michael, > Reminds me of my not-soon-enough-ex-wife! Twenty-seven years ago when I divorced my first ex-husband, it cost me over $20K in legal fees and hidden assets I decided not to go after. Divorce is expensive, and WORTH EVERY PENNY! :-) Isn't it great that it will be over soon, and will the

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2007-12-06 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Madigan, > She's only been stiffed a few times, so it isn't that, > it's more of cash flow and aggravation. She wants to > be able to count on the money being there on the first > of the month and not have to make individual phone > calls to remind people. Can you set her up with a pre-billing s

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2007-12-04 Thread Paul McNett
Michael Madigan wrote: > Right, so a little 6yo will come into the room and > she'll have to tell her to, "tell mommy there will be > no lesson today" and watch the crying. That wouldn't > be the best situation either. My point being, she has the policy. She should live by the policy or change

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2007-12-04 Thread Richard A Mertl
IMHO I suggest that instead of late fees you attempt to collect as services are provided. I believe that you are providing a service that is intangible and it is not possible to resell that time to another customer. Providing time, once consumed can never be regained. Collect as the time elapses

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2007-12-04 Thread MB Software Solutions
Allen wrote: > I think they want cake and eat it. > They did not use to change for purchases abroad but I see now they even have > that covered. greedy sods. > Allen > > Reminds me of my not-soon-enough-ex-wife! -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions

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2007-12-04 Thread MB Software Solutions
Michael Madigan wrote: > Right, so a little 6yo will come into the room and > she'll have to tell her to, "tell mommy there will be > no lesson today" and watch the crying. That wouldn't > be the best situation either. > > OK, so let's assume there will be a late fee. How > much should it be? >

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2007-12-04 Thread MB Software Solutions
Michael Madigan wrote: > She does that now. They pay on the first of the month > for lessons to be taken during the month. The problem > is, some people don't pay by then and wind up taking a > lesson or two that they haven't paid for yet. > > Have her hang a sign that says "No pay, no play!"

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2007-12-04 Thread Allen
I think they want cake and eat it. They did not use to change for purchases abroad but I see now they even have that covered. greedy sods. Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions The credit card companies aren't in any

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2007-12-04 Thread MB Software Solutions
Michael Madigan wrote: > It does help to make sure your due date is always > honored with zero tolerance. > > I forgot to pay my credit card this month and the next > day I got a call from them wondering where my payment > was. I can only think that late payments are on the > rise and they are in

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2007-12-04 Thread Allen
fair enough as long as its that kind of relationship. I have some that are do something for them and hope you get something back when you need it. doesnt always happen that way but its good to have a few like that. Otherwise business is business as they (whoever they are) say Allen -Original M

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2007-12-04 Thread Stephen Russell
On Dec 3, 2007 8:50 PM, Pete Theisen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 03 December 2007 18:20, Michael Madigan wrote: > > It does help to make sure your due date is always > > honored with zero tolerance. > > > > I forgot to pay my credit card this month and the next > > day I got a call from

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2007-12-04 Thread Pete Theisen
On Monday 03 December 2007 23:31, Michael Madigan wrote: Hi Michael! She was doing ten week blocks. > She does that now. They pay on the first of the month > for lessons to be taken during the month. The problem > is, some people don't pay by then and wind up taking a > lesson or two that they

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2007-12-03 Thread Michael Madigan
Right, so a little 6yo will come into the room and she'll have to tell her to, "tell mommy there will be no lesson today" and watch the crying. That wouldn't be the best situation either. OK, so let's assume there will be a late fee. How much should it be? --- Paul McNett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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2007-12-03 Thread Michael Madigan
She's only been stiffed a few times, so it isn't that, it's more of cash flow and aggravation. She wants to be able to count on the money being there on the first of the month and not have to make individual phone calls to remind people. --- Whil Hentzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael Mad

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2007-12-03 Thread Paul McNett
Michael Madigan wrote: > She does that now. They pay on the first of the month > for lessons to be taken during the month. The problem > is, some people don't pay by then and wind up taking a > lesson or two that they haven't paid for yet. If the policy is for payment up front, then she shouldn

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2007-12-03 Thread Whil Hentzen
Michael Madigan wrote: > She does that now. They pay on the first of the month > for lessons to be taken during the month. The problem > is, some people don't pay by then and wind up taking a > lesson or two that they haven't paid for yet. If she's afear'd that she'll get stiffed, that's one thi

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2007-12-03 Thread Michael Madigan
She does that now. They pay on the first of the month for lessons to be taken during the month. The problem is, some people don't pay by then and wind up taking a lesson or two that they haven't paid for yet. --- Pete Theisen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 03 December 2007 18:20, Mich

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2007-12-03 Thread Pete Theisen
On Monday 03 December 2007 18:20, Michael Madigan wrote: > It does help to make sure your due date is always > honored with zero tolerance. > > I forgot to pay my credit card this month and the next > day I got a call from them wondering where my payment > was. I can only think that late payments

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2007-12-03 Thread Jeff Johnson
I feel that if you are "tight enough" to product software on predicted dates with little flexibility then you can ask for late charges if it is not paid for in an expected amount of time. In other words, I need the flexibility to deliver software when it is done and tested - not at a given dat

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2007-12-03 Thread Michael Madigan
It does help to make sure your due date is always honored with zero tolerance. I forgot to pay my credit card this month and the next day I got a call from them wondering where my payment was. I can only think that late payments are on the rise and they are in a cash-flow crunch. --- Whil Hen

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2007-12-03 Thread Whil Hentzen
> > Second, you attract more bees with honey than with vinegar. Raise your > rates 10% and offer 10 Net 30 rates: 10% off your stated bill if paid > within 30 days. Some people hate to spend money (pay your bills) but > love to save money (paying your bill). Keep everyone happy. Of course, there

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2007-12-03 Thread John Weller
I normally only do projects which have a start and end. My approach, which wouldn't work in your young lady's case, is to break the project down into blocks which have deliverables, eg spec, prototype to demo concept, first phase with specified functionality, second phase with additional functiona

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2007-12-03 Thread MB Software Solutions
Paul McNett wrote: > > I'm not super aggressive, and I don't really want to ever have too much > work where I'd need to hire help or outsource. I basically like being a > one-man-shop, and I only really have 26-30 hours max per week, so 1 > major gig plus a few minor gigs is all I can really

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2007-12-03 Thread MB Software Solutions
Michael Madigan wrote: > I think keeping away the jerks is certainly more > valuable than a little more income. > Agreed...but look at your words: "...a little more income" whereas mine where "food on the table." There's a difference (unfortunately). -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software

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2007-12-03 Thread Michael Madigan
I like this approach. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It's a little differenct context, but a solution > that works for me with rental properties is to write > the lease for $50 more than the payment I expect, > then give a $50 discount if paid within the first > five days. > > If they go beyond

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2007-12-03 Thread richmondeagle
It's a little differenct context, but a solution that works for me with rental properties is to write the lease for $50 more than the payment I expect, then give a $50 discount if paid within the first five days. If they go beyond there, they know they pay the full price and psychologically a d

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2007-12-03 Thread Ted Roche
On Dec 3, 2007 2:16 PM, Michael Madigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Has anyone instituted late fees in their billing? Is > there a magic number that works? I can charge > interest, but that doesn't assure promptness. > Two things I've learned: First, you can get in trouble with local/state usu

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2007-12-03 Thread Paul McNett
Michael Madigan wrote: > I think keeping away the jerks is certainly more > valuable than a little more income. Oh, I also have a jerk-free policy. As soon as I don't like somebody, personally as well as professionally, I'll get out of the contract as fast as possible. Luckily, my pay-up-front

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2007-12-03 Thread Paul McNett
MB Software Solutions wrote: > Paul McNett wrote: >> I don't do work until I'm paid in advance. It solves the problem >> rather nicely, although I'm sure I lose out on some jobs with that policy. > > > That policy keeps away the jerks for sure who'd stiff you, but does that > keep food on the

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2007-12-03 Thread Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh
On Dec 3, 2007, at 1:28 PM, Paul McNett wrote: >> I have heard some use base rate + a persentage to be added for >> late payment > > I don't do work until I'm paid in advance. It solves the problem > rather > nicely, although I'm sure I lose out on some jobs with that policy. I do a middle g

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2007-12-03 Thread Michael Madigan
I think keeping away the jerks is certainly more valuable than a little more income. --- MB Software Solutions <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paul McNett wrote: > > I don't do work until I'm paid in advance. It > solves the problem > > rather nicely, although I'm sure I lose out on > some jobs wit

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2007-12-03 Thread MB Software Solutions
Paul McNett wrote: > I don't do work until I'm paid in advance. It solves the problem > rather nicely, although I'm sure I lose out on some jobs with that policy. That policy keeps away the jerks for sure who'd stiff you, but does that keep food on the table in your experience? -- Michael J.

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2007-12-03 Thread Stephen Russell
On Dec 3, 2007 1:16 PM, Michael Madigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Has anyone instituted late fees in their billing? Is > there a magic number that works? I can charge > interest, but that doesn't assure promptness. > > My girlfriend, who teaches piano, is also having the > same problem. Peopl

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2007-12-03 Thread Paul McNett
Allen wrote: > I have heard some use base rate + a persentage to be added for late payment I don't do work until I'm paid in advance. It solves the problem rather nicely, although I'm sure I lose out on some jobs with that policy. -- pkm ~ http://paulmcnett.com _

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2007-12-03 Thread Allen
I have heard some use base rate + a persentage to be added for late payment Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: 03 December 2007 20:17 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [NF] Late fees Has anyone instituted late fees i