Re: [NF] Unacceptable verizon dsl service

2008-11-17 Thread Pete Theisen
Joe Yoder wrote: > Do you know anyone else in your area using the same Verizon service > Finally, when I have had intermittent problems with my cable modem > installation, I have had the provider swap out their device to see if it > has been causing the problem. Perhaps Verizon would do that

Re: [NF] Unacceptable verizon dsl service

2008-11-17 Thread Joe Yoder
t; >Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:09:38 -0500 >From: Pete Theisen >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >cc: >Subject: Re: [NF] Unacceptable verizon dsl service > >Michael Madigan wrote: > >> I do have to say that if it is working part of the time, I can't believe >> it's

Re: [NF] Unacceptable verizon dsl service

2008-11-17 Thread Pete Theisen
Michael Madigan wrote: > I do have to say that if it is working part of the time, I can't believe it's > the box. Hi Michael! I bet they are pulling some . The only thing I can think of is if the new firmware lets them use less bandwidth per user. What I think is really happening is that

Re: [NF] Unacceptable verizon dsl service

2008-11-17 Thread Michael Madigan
Google on "default passord" for your router after you reset the box. I do have to say that if it is working part of the time, I can't believe it's the box. --- On Mon, 11/17/08, Fred Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Fred Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&g

Re: [NF] Unacceptable verizon dsl service

2008-11-17 Thread Fred Taylor
More likely 192.168.1.1 for the IP address. On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Pete Theisen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Alan Bourke wrote: > > On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 12:40:13 -0500, "Pete Theisen" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > >> How would you find it? > > > > Generally you either download a fil

Re: [NF] Unacceptable verizon dsl service

2008-11-17 Thread Pete Theisen
Alan Bourke wrote: > On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 12:40:13 -0500, "Pete Theisen" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >> How would you find it? > > Generally you either download a file from the website and then point the > router at it via the web/telnet interface. A lot of them also just have > an 'Update Firm

Re: [NF] Unacceptable verizon dsl service

2008-11-17 Thread Pete Theisen
Alan Bourke wrote: > On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 12:40:13 -0500, "Pete Theisen" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >> How would you find it? > > Generally you either download a file from the website and then point the > router at it via the web/telnet interface. A lot of them also just have > an 'Update Firm

Re: [NF] Unacceptable verizon dsl service

2008-11-17 Thread Alan Bourke
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 12:40:13 -0500, "Pete Theisen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > How would you find it? Generally you either download a file from the website and then point the router at it via the web/telnet interface. A lot of them also just have an 'Update Firmware' button. If you start Fire

Re: [NF] Unacceptable verizon dsl service

2008-11-17 Thread Pete Theisen
Alan Bourke wrote: > On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 08:12:31 -0500, "Pete Theisen" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >> That has been a sore spot. The configuration software runs on windows >> and I don't have windows. Years ago I set it up with an XP notebook that >> I don't have any more. > > Doesn't it hav

Re: [NF] Unacceptable verizon dsl service

2008-11-17 Thread Pete Theisen
Alan Bourke wrote: > On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 12:17:01 -0500, "Pete Theisen" > >> I imagine it does. But the tech they assigned to my case was too >> ignorant to know it. He said something about updating the modem's >> configuration software > > I would imagine he means a firmware update, which you

Re: [NF] Unacceptable verizon dsl service

2008-11-17 Thread Alan Bourke
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 12:17:01 -0500, "Pete Theisen" > I imagine it does. But the tech they assigned to my case was too > ignorant to know it. He said something about updating the modem's > configuration software I would imagine he means a firmware update, which you can do via the aforementioned

Re: [NF] Unacceptable verizon dsl service

2008-11-17 Thread Pete Theisen
Alan Bourke wrote: > On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 08:12:31 -0500, "Pete Theisen" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >> That has been a sore spot. The configuration software runs on windows >> and I don't have windows. Years ago I set it up with an XP notebook that >> I don't have any more. > > Doesn't it hav

Re: [NF] Unacceptable verizon dsl service

2008-11-17 Thread Pete Theisen
Jim Dettman wrote: > So call them when it's down. Hi Jim! You can't call them, they have a callback system. When you call you get this infuriating computer voice conversation software that hasn't a clue. They jerk your chain for twenty minutes or so with this and then you finally get a real

Re: [NF] Unacceptable verizon dsl service

2008-11-17 Thread Alan Bourke
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 08:12:31 -0500, "Pete Theisen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > That has been a sore spot. The configuration software runs on windows > and I don't have windows. Years ago I set it up with an XP notebook that > I don't have any more. Doesn't it have a HTTP web configuration page

RE: [NF] Unacceptable verizon dsl service

2008-11-17 Thread Jim Dettman
and the modem, no packets across the wire, a DNS server problem, you can't get your mail, or what? Jim. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 7:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] U

Re: [NF] Unacceptable verizon dsl service

2008-11-17 Thread Stephen Russell
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 11:57 PM, Pete Theisen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, it isn't just unreliable as in slow, it out and out stops. Sits > there with the "internet" light out on the modem for 15 or 20 minutes. > At some point the timeout screen comes up and if you click on that > "retry" i

Re: [NF] Unacceptable verizon dsl service

2008-11-17 Thread Pete Theisen
Alan Bourke wrote: > Check your internal router config and make sure it's set to a 'nailed > up' type of connection. Also maybe the router logs might show something. Hi Alan! That has been a sore spot. The configuration software runs on windows and I don't have windows. Years ago I set it up wi

Re: [NF] Unacceptable verizon dsl service

2008-11-17 Thread Alan Bourke
Check your internal router config and make sure it's set to a 'nailed up' type of connection. Also maybe the router logs might show something. -- Alan Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http:/

Re: [NF] Unacceptable verizon dsl service

2008-11-16 Thread Pete Theisen
Kristyne McDaniel wrote: > Paul, > >> Tolerating unreliability is one of the founding principles of >> the Internet. > > We tolerate it there just like we build tolerance in our software. It is a > fact of life because it was created by humans for humans... and all humans > need tolerance. Hi K

RE: [NF] Unacceptable verizon dsl service

2008-11-16 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Paul, > Tolerating unreliability is one of the founding principles of > the Internet. We tolerate it there just like we build tolerance in our software. It is a fact of life because it was created by humans for humans... and all humans need tolerance. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.kristynemcdani

Re: [NF] Unacceptable verizon dsl service

2008-11-16 Thread Paul McNett
Kristyne McDaniel wrote: > But since I'm not exactly rolling in the bucks right now so I tolerate > periodic unreliability. :-) Tolerating unreliability is one of the founding principles of the Internet. Paul ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Sub

RE: [NF] Unacceptable verizon dsl service

2008-11-16 Thread Michael Madigan
How can I ever return it? Once I use it, it's gone. --- On Sun, 11/16/08, Mike Wohlrab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Mike Wohlrab <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: [NF] Unacceptable verizon dsl service > To: profox@leafe.com > Date: Sunday, November 16, 2

RE: [NF] Unacceptable verizon dsl service

2008-11-16 Thread Mike Wohlrab
7 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] Unacceptable verizon dsl service Well If my income goes down any more I may put up a big antenna and steal it from my neighbors! * Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --

Re: [NF] Unacceptable verizon dsl service

2008-11-16 Thread Pete Theisen
Kristyne McDaniel wrote: > Moral of the story? If you want the most reliable connection you have to pay > up for it. If you want to save a buck you have to tolerate periodic > unreliability. > > Of course, we already know this story... :-D Hi Kristyne! They lie about it. They say it is always o

RE: [NF] Unacceptable verizon dsl service

2008-11-16 Thread Michael Madigan
> From: Kristyne McDaniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: [NF] Unacceptable verizon dsl service > To: "'ProFox Email List'" > Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 5:46 PM > Gil, > > > > Moral of the story? If you want the most reliable > co

RE: [NF] Unacceptable verizon dsl service

2008-11-16 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Gil, > > Moral of the story? If you want the most reliable connection you > > have to pay > > up for it. If you want to save a buck you have to tolerate periodic > > unreliability. > > > > You could always just download the Internet locally and avoid the > connectivity issues while surfing ... h

RE: [NF] Unacceptable verizon dsl service

2008-11-16 Thread Gil Hale
ng ... heh-heh > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kristyne McDaniel > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 2:42 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [NF] Unacceptable verizon dsl service > > > I am using a Sprint broadband ca

RE: [NF] Unacceptable verizon dsl service

2008-11-16 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
I am using a Sprint broadband card these days with a Kyocera router, and it was cutting out in midday. What I found was that it was a combination of higher traffic and the position of the broadband card. Once I got the positioning correct it cut out less often... However, since broadband cards and

Re: [NF] Unacceptable verizon dsl service

2008-11-16 Thread Michael Madigan
Sounds to me like they're doing maintenance or something early in the morning * Barack Obama is not My President http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike --- On Sun, 11/16/08, Pete Theisen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Pete Theisen <[EMAIL PR