Re: VFP: Slow work periods

2007-08-17 Thread David Boatright
Pete Theisen Interesting business plan. Sell a virtual product made in virtual factories to real customers who pay real money up front? Nice work if they can get it. Demo requires the latest version of Flash. The last time I tried to upgrade Flash I had to change computers. What are people

Re: VFP: Slow work periods

2007-08-17 Thread Pete Theisen
On Friday 17 August 2007 08:39, David Boatright wrote: Interesting business plan. Sell a virtual product made in virtual factories to real customers who pay real money up front? I am not sure what you mean about virtual product. Hi David! Oh, I got the impression that the product has

Re: VFP: Slow work periods

2007-08-16 Thread David Boatright
Pete Theisen Here in Florida they have always wanted us to starve. Never quite got over slavery, but they have been trying to bring it back by calling it contract labor. They put a job out for bid, someone will aways bid below cost thinking he/she will get a foot in the door. Tell me about it, I

Re: VFP: Slow work periods

2007-08-16 Thread Garrett Fitzgerald
On 8/11/07, Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I think we all need is a back-burner revenue producer that does not depend on the number of hours we work. That's why I'm working on the web sites and a vertical market product. So far, it is not finished. You could write Crystal

Re: VFP: Slow work periods

2007-08-16 Thread MB Software Solutions
David Boatright wrote: Tell me about it, I am doing system devleopment, I.T. support and running the quoting and pricing for a a guy in Miami and he will not pay me more than $12/ hr. He has now asked me to do a Manufacturing Resource Planning system for his new factory, on my weekends. He

Re: VFP: Slow work periods

2007-08-16 Thread David Boatright
Message: 1 Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:17:52 -0400 From: MB Software Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: VFP: Slow work periods To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Michael J. Babcock, MCP, And you turned him down politely without

Re: VFP: Slow work periods

2007-08-16 Thread David Boatright
Pete Theisen Better grab that! I have never made more than $10 anytime on any job, even seeing patients, all the time I have been in Florida. Of course, if you could knock it out in 10 hours, real RAD. I don't think I could knock it out in 10 hours, here is something they have been looking at

RE: VFP: Slow work periods

2007-08-16 Thread Stephen the Cook
David Boatright wrote: Pete Theisen Here in Florida they have always wanted us to starve. Never quite got over slavery, but they have been trying to bring it back by calling it contract labor. They put a job out for bid, someone will aways bid below cost thinking he/she will get a foot in

Re: VFP: Slow work periods

2007-08-15 Thread Alan Bourke
MB Software Solutions wrote: that means they'll be outsourced soon to the next cheaper country. g Pakistan probably. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of

Re: VFP: Slow work periods

2007-08-15 Thread Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
Alan Bourke wrote: MB Software Solutions wrote: that means they'll be outsourced soon to the next cheaper country. g Pakistan probably. What luck! We just got hit a barrage of bogus orders last night from Pakistan. The name and address on the credit cards attempted were all Wisconsin

[OT] Offshoring from India to Pakistan (was Re: VFP: Slow work periods)

2007-08-15 Thread MB Software Solutions
Alan Bourke wrote: MB Software Solutions wrote: that means they'll be outsourced soon to the next cheaper country. g Pakistan probably. ___ I always thought the fact that India and Pakistan were near nuclear war would have

Re: VFP: Slow work periods

2007-08-15 Thread MB Software Solutions
Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: What luck! We just got hit a barrage of bogus orders last night from Pakistan. The name and address on the credit cards attempted were all Wisconsin (how curious!) but the IP was Pakistan. Do you think a cheesehead ex-pat is living in Karachi is in dire need of

Re: VFP: Slow work periods

2007-08-14 Thread Chet Gardiner
You're right. That's nearly 3 times what an Indian programmer would make... MB Software Solutions wrote: Michael Madigan wrote: Lower jobs in the tech field have seemed to really hit the floor. I was looking at some installation work or maybe help desk work part time to increase my

Re: VFP: Slow work periods

2007-08-14 Thread MB Software Solutions
Chet Gardiner wrote: You're right. That's nearly 3 times what an Indian programmer would make... Ah, but our fellow brothers in India are starting to get their fair share if I heard correctly. Rates on really rising over there. I guess that means they'll be outsourced soon to the next

Re: VFP: Slow work periods

2007-08-13 Thread Michael Madigan
Lower jobs in the tech field have seemed to really hit the floor. I was looking at some installation work or maybe help desk work part time to increase my income and some were paying as little as $15.00 / hr without benefits. Holy Cow! ___ Post

Re: VFP: Slow work periods

2007-08-13 Thread Derek Kalweit
Lower jobs in the tech field have seemed to really hit the floor. I was looking at some installation work or maybe help desk work part time to increase my income and some were paying as little as $15.00 / hr without benefits. Holy Cow! Floor? That stuff pays as little as minimum wage

Re: VFP: Slow work periods

2007-08-13 Thread MB Software Solutions
Michael Madigan wrote: Lower jobs in the tech field have seemed to really hit the floor. I was looking at some installation work or maybe help desk work part time to increase my income and some were paying as little as $15.00 / hr without benefits. Holy Cow! That's royalty pay

Re: VFP: Slow work periods

2007-08-13 Thread Pete Theisen
On Monday 13 August 2007 16:24, Derek Kalweit wrote: Lower jobs in the tech field have seemed to really hit the floor. I was looking at some installation work or maybe help desk work part time to increase my income and some were paying as little as $15.00 / hr without benefits.

RE: VFP: Slow work periods

2007-08-12 Thread Allen
I use the swimming pool Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vince Teachout Sent: 11 August 2007 23:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: VFP: Slow work periods I usually freak out, panic, stay awake all night, and then finally decide

RE: VFP: Slow work periods

2007-08-12 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Allen, I use the swimming pool Our old house had a pool, but the new house isn't done yet and we don't have a pool yet either. That's going to be a while, certainly not until after these contractor issues are resolved. Kristyne McDaniel http://www.tenajacontractor.com

VFP: Slow work periods

2007-08-11 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Things have been quite slow over here for McStyles Software... Anyone need to off-load some programming work? I'm taking new clients! How do you folks deal with the inevitable lulls in contracting these days? I used to have less downtime between contracts, and lately the length of down periods

Re: VFP: Slow work periods

2007-08-11 Thread MB Software Solutions
Kristyne McDaniel wrote: Things have been quite slow over here for McStyles Software... Anyone need to off-load some programming work? I'm taking new clients! How do you folks deal with the inevitable lulls in contracting these days? I used to have less downtime between contracts, and lately

Re: VFP: Slow work periods

2007-08-11 Thread Vince Teachout
Kristyne McDaniel wrote: How do you folks deal with the inevitable lulls in contracting these days? I used to have less downtime between contracts, and lately the length of down periods have been longer. I usually freak out, panic, stay awake all night, and then finally decide that I may as

Re: VFP: Slow work periods

2007-08-11 Thread Michael Madigan
I'm dying over here in NJ too. My two home builder clients are suffering, so I am too, and another client is the victim of a frivolous law suit which is keeping my work hours way down. In fact, for the first time in nearly 2 years I'm thinking of looking to be an employee again. Anyone in NJ

RE: VFP: Slow work periods

2007-08-11 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Michael, The stuff that irks the hell out of me are these gigs you've verbally been told that you're getting, yet they take forever to sign the contract and pony up the deposit. Talk, as they say, is cheap and imo just a shade above worthless. That's a big gripe I have. I'm sure

RE: VFP: Slow work periods

2007-08-11 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Hi Vince, YMMV. Have you looked at Guru.com? A LOT of the projects are We want the earth, the moon, the sun, and all the stars. We want it by Thursday, and we DON'T expect to pay more than $49.95. I once signed up for Guru.com and Sologig a few years ago and let them go because it looked

RE: VFP: Slow work periods

2007-08-11 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Madigan, In fact, for the first time in nearly 2 years I'm thinking of looking to be an employee again. I thought about that too, but had an interview last week with a company that was really looking for a C# guru instead of an OOP guru that knows C#. That didn't come to anything. Kristyne

Re: VFP: Slow work periods

2007-08-11 Thread MB Software Solutions
Vince Teachout wrote: I usually freak out, panic, stay awake all night, and then finally decide that I may as well use the down time to learn new programming languages. As soon as I do, work arrives without fail to interrupt the learning. YMMV. Have you looked at Guru.com? A LOT of the

Re: VFP: Slow work periods

2007-08-11 Thread Pete Theisen
On Saturday 11 August 2007 21:11, MB Software Solutions wrote: snip A LOT of the projects are We want the earth, the moon, the sun, and all the stars. We want it by Thursday, and we DON'T expect to pay more than $49.95. However, there are a few reasonable projects as well, and since they