Re: [Jprogramming] Jx 1.1 Release

2017-10-08 Thread Don Guinn
I will ignore this thread as it is not talking about possible extensions to J but a language similar to and based on some concepts of J. On Oct 8, 2017 10:51 AM, "Erling Hellenäs" wrote: > Don, this thread is about the latest beta release of Jx. There are new > features which we discuss. /Erling

Re: [Jprogramming] Jx 1.1 Release

2017-10-08 Thread Erling Hellenäs
Don, this thread is about the latest beta release of Jx. There are new features which we discuss. /Erling On 2017-10-08 17:30, Don Guinn wrote: ​​ =.. |spelling error | =.. | ^ |[-0] =:: |spelling error | =:: | ^ |[-0] It is true that you can use =. and =: in building tacit ex

Re: [Jprogramming] Jx 1.1 Release

2017-10-08 Thread Erling Hellenäs
You'll avoid using this, but it's there if you really need it for something special? /Erling On 2017-10-08 16:54, Jose Mario Quintana wrote: I messed up the last part of my last message. It should have been: You can get what you want using instead, (".@:('p'"_) , 0 $ 'p' =:: ]) 'erling'

Re: [Jprogramming] Jx 1.1 Release

2017-10-08 Thread Jose Mario Quintana
It is not clear to me to which post you were responding. However, we are discussing (or trying to be discussing) Jx primitives and both =.. and =:: make sense in Jx; see the first post on this subject: http://www.jsoftware.com/pipermail/programming/2017-September/048957.html On Sun, Oct 8, 201

Re: [Jprogramming] Jx 1.1 Release

2017-10-08 Thread Don Guinn
​​ =.. |spelling error | =.. | ^ |[-0] =:: |spelling error | =:: | ^ |[-0] It is true that you can use =. and =: in building tacit expressions, but like using something like 3+2 in writing a tacit expression. It disappears as when one examines the resultant tacit expression. 5 is f

Re: [Jprogramming] Jx 1.1 Release

2017-10-08 Thread Jose Mario Quintana
I messed up the last part of my last message. It should have been: You can get what you want using instead, (".@:('p'"_) , 0 $ 'p' =:: ]) 'erling' erling p erling erase'p' 1 or (".@:('p'"_) , 0 $ 'p' =.. ]) 'erling' erling p erling since =.. is easier to type and it is equival

Re: [Jprogramming] Jx 1.1 Release

2017-10-08 Thread Jose Mario Quintana
Hi Erling, This might be repetitive because I have not read carefully the responses to your question. Allow me to try to illustrate the issue using =:: first. The Jx verb =:: can be modeled using the explicit, cop=. '(x)=: y'(dyad :) The sentence, (p , 0 $ 'p' =:: ]) 'erling' |value er

Re: [Jprogramming] Jx 1.1 Release

2017-10-08 Thread Erling Hellenäs
Attacking the victims and protecting the bullies are not going to recreate the good atmosphere. /Erling On 2017-10-08 16:32, Erling Hellenäs wrote: I also remember it as extremely nice and friendly a long time ago. /Erling On 2017-10-08 16:19, Roger Hui wrote: Many people here have a habit o

Re: [Jprogramming] Jx 1.1 Release

2017-10-08 Thread Erling Hellenäs
I also remember it as extremely nice and friendly a long time ago. /Erling On 2017-10-08 16:19, Roger Hui wrote: Many people here have a habit of giving long lectures to people about things they already know to make it appear like they are totally stupid and they themselves are very clever and a

Re: [Jprogramming] Jx 1.1 Release

2017-10-08 Thread Erling Hellenäs
I can remind me of many times when I found that you did not respond to anything I asked for or wanted to discuss in a thread, but repeatedly found small unimportant things to to criticize, without caring that your criticism was totally unaccounted for and most often totally wrong, repeatedly an

Re: [Jprogramming] Jx 1.1 Release

2017-10-08 Thread Roger Hui
> Many people here have a habit of giving long lectures to people about > things they already know to make it appear like they are totally stupid > and they themselves are very clever and are teaching this stupid person > even the most basic things. /Erling At 2004-10-21 09:44:37 -0400, Eric Ivers

Re: [Jprogramming] Jx 1.1 Release

2017-10-08 Thread Raul Miller
I think you might be projecting your own motivational structure onto other people? (Our own point of view is, after all, our basis for understanding others. Or, at least, that's a theory sometimes worth considering.) Personally, I tend to air reviewing of basics a lot because I find reviewing basi

Re: [Jprogramming] Jx 1.1 Release

2017-10-08 Thread Erling Hellenäs
This answer was based on a mixup of persons I did. Excuse me. /Erling On 2017-10-08 10:58, Erling Hellenäs wrote: Many people here have a habit of giving long lectures to people about things they already know to make it appear like they are totally stupid and they themselves are very clever and

Re: [Jprogramming] Jx 1.1 Release

2017-10-08 Thread Erling Hellenäs
Maybe you should then learn the same lesson you give me. /Erling On 2017-10-08 11:26, Louis de Forcrand wrote: Maybe he didn’t understand your original question? In any case it seems you could use a lesson in good manners. Louis On 8 Oct 2017, at 10:58, Erling Hellenäs wrote: Many people h

Re: [Jprogramming] Jx 1.1 Release

2017-10-08 Thread Louis de Forcrand
Maybe he didn’t understand your original question? In any case it seems you could use a lesson in good manners. Louis > On 8 Oct 2017, at 10:58, Erling Hellenäs wrote: > > Many people here have a habit of giving long lectures to people about things > they already know to make it appear like t

Re: [Jprogramming] Jx 1.1 Release

2017-10-08 Thread Erling Hellenäs
We are discussing the copula verbs which have a different syntax. /Erling On 2017-10-08 10:58, Erling Hellenäs wrote: Many people here have a habit of giving long lectures to people about things they already know to make it appear like they are totally stupid and they themselves are very clever

Re: [Jprogramming] Jx 1.1 Release

2017-10-08 Thread Erling Hellenäs
Hi all! The second version seems to work.    ('p'~ , 0 $ 'p' =.. ]) 'erling' |value error: p |   ('p'~,0$'p'=..])'erling'    (3 : 'p' , 0 $ 'p' =.. ]) 'erling' erling    (3 : 'p' , 0 $ 'p' =.. ]) 'fredrik' fredrik    (3 : 'p' , 0 $ 'p' =.. ]) 'petter' petter    ((3 : 'p') , 0 $ 'p' =.. ]) 'p

Re: [Jprogramming] Jx 1.1 Release

2017-10-08 Thread Erling Hellenäs
Many people here have a habit of giving long lectures to people about things they already know to make it appear like they are totally stupid and they themselves are very clever and are teaching this stupid person even the most basic things. /Erling On 2017-10-08 01:25, Don Guinn wrote: I don