Re: [Jprogramming] generating explicit from tacit

2013-09-21 Thread Ian Clark
Thanks, Bill. I've made careful notes for when I have to do it again. (Which won't be for a while.) On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 2:51 AM, bill lam wrote: > You have to run the build or save script of the package so as to > build and copy files from Public to Addons folder of your > computer, and th

Re: [Jprogramming] generating explicit from tacit

2013-09-20 Thread bill lam
You have to run the build or save script of the package so as to build and copy files from Public to Addons folder of your computer, and then commit new changes of Addons as well. I have done this for you. Please try it yourself next time. Пт, 20 сен 2013, Ian Clark писал(а): > Right, Bill, I've

Re: [Jprogramming] generating explicit from tacit

2013-09-20 Thread Ian Clark
@Bill ok I think I've fixed it. I needed to update labdir.ijs too, and also point the lablist.ijs entry in the right place. On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 7:06 PM, Ian Clark wrote: > Right, Bill, I've done that. And examining my checked-out repository > (which I call: jpublic to be able to recognise i

Re: [Jprogramming] generating explicit from tacit

2013-09-20 Thread Ian Clark
Right, Bill, I've done that. And examining my checked-out repository (which I call: jpublic to be able to recognise it in my home folder) I think I understand its structure, and can see what to update. As a result I see from: http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/JAL/Build%20Log that I've successfully re

Re: [Jprogramming] generating explicit from tacit

2013-09-20 Thread Brian Schott
I only see debug/lint and debug/dissect when I click "not installed" On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:23 AM, bill lam wrote: > Does Ian's new lab appear in JHS? > > -- (B=) -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.co

Re: [Jprogramming] generating explicit from tacit

2013-09-20 Thread bill lam
The Public repo can be checked out using $ svn co http://www.jsoftware.com/svn/public/trunk public Typically you need to set user folders ~Addons and ~Public in order to build scripts there. [1] http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Subversion Пт, 20 сен 2013, Ian Clark писал(а): > Okay, it wasn't qui

Re: [Jprogramming] generating explicit from tacit

2013-09-20 Thread Ian Clark
Okay, it wasn't quite as simple as I first thought. I'll make some time to fully understand what Bill is saying. On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 4:23 AM, bill lam wrote: > The lablist.txt was first introduced for jgtk. I guess it can > simplify the logic of discovering labs. > > BTW for labs, it also

Re: [Jprogramming] generating explicit from tacit

2013-09-20 Thread Björn Helgason
If it is in the right folder it will. On Sep 20, 2013 7:23 AM, "bill lam" wrote: > Does Ian's new lab appear in JHS? > > Пт, 20 сен 2013, Björn Helgason писал(а): > > in JHS it is easy because the lab select picks it automatically > > On Sep 20, 2013 12:31 AM, "Ian Clark" wrote: > > > > > Thank

Re: [Jprogramming] generating explicit from tacit

2013-09-20 Thread bill lam
Does Ian's new lab appear in JHS? Пт, 20 сен 2013, Björn Helgason писал(а): > in JHS it is easy because the lab select picks it automatically > On Sep 20, 2013 12:31 AM, "Ian Clark" wrote: > > > Thanks, Joe. > > > > I take my hat off to you, if you, a beginner, can run a lab in JQt from a > > do

Re: [Jprogramming] generating explicit from tacit

2013-09-20 Thread Björn Helgason
in JHS it is easy because the lab select picks it automatically On Sep 20, 2013 12:31 AM, "Ian Clark" wrote: > Thanks, Joe. > > I take my hat off to you, if you, a beginner, can run a lab in JQt from a > downloaded .ijt file. > > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Joe Bogner wrote: > > > Ian, th

Re: [Jprogramming] generating explicit from tacit

2013-09-19 Thread bill lam
The lablist.txt was first introduced for jgtk. I guess it can simplify the logic of discovering labs. BTW for labs, it also needs to update the Public repository which is the real source. Otherwise your changes to Addons will be overwritten. Пт, 20 сен 2013, Ian Clark писал(а): > Thanks Bill, I

Re: [Jprogramming] generating explicit from tacit

2013-09-19 Thread Brian Schott
I really meant both of you. Sorry. On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Ian Clark wrote: > @Brian - did you mean Roger Stokes (originator of EVM), not me (promoter of > tte)? > > (Both EVM and tte are indeed defined as adverbs.) > > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 2:12 AM, Brian Schott >wrote: > > > Ian

Re: [Jprogramming] generating explicit from tacit

2013-09-19 Thread Ian Clark
Thanks Bill, I went ahead and did it, just after sending my email. (Revisions 4626 and 4627) Really quite easy (...and I've made myself a new checklist). Never really understood the need for lablist.txt. j602 doesn't need it. Is it there just to control migration of labs from j602 to j801? (What

Re: [Jprogramming] generating explicit from tacit

2013-09-19 Thread bill lam
I guess that would be trivial, just use the "svn commit" command if you are using the command line interface. Пт, 20 сен 2013, Ian Clark писал(а): > I'm being lazy, Bill :) > > I work strictly from checklists when using svn. I don't have one for > updating lablist.txt (yet). I guess it's just a q

Re: [Jprogramming] generating explicit from tacit

2013-09-19 Thread Ian Clark
@Brian - did you mean Roger Stokes (originator of EVM), not me (promoter of tte)? (Both EVM and tte are indeed defined as adverbs.) On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 2:12 AM, Brian Schott wrote: > Ian, > > EVM is particularly clever because you have defined it as an adverb. > Congratulations. > > --- > (

Re: [Jprogramming] generating explicit from tacit

2013-09-19 Thread Brian Schott
Ian, EVM is particularly clever because you have defined it as an adverb. Congratulations. --- (B=) -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm

Re: [Jprogramming] generating explicit from tacit

2013-09-19 Thread Ian Clark
Thanks, Joe. I take my hat off to you, if you, a beginner, can run a lab in JQt from a downloaded .ijt file. On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Joe Bogner wrote: > Ian, thank you for uploading and creating a lab. I've downloaded it from > svn and used it in jqt 8. I was uncertain how to get star

Re: [Jprogramming] generating explicit from tacit

2013-09-19 Thread Ian Clark
I'm being lazy, Bill :) I work strictly from checklists when using svn. I don't have one for updating lablist.txt (yet). I guess it's just a question of hunting for it. On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 12:49 PM, bill lam wrote: > I can that you can commit changes to svn, can you explain why you cannot

Re: [Jprogramming] generating explicit from tacit

2013-09-19 Thread Joe Bogner
Ian, thank you for uploading and creating a lab. I've downloaded it from svn and used it in jqt 8. I was uncertain how to get started from the wiki page that referenced it. The lab, test file, and tte.ijs makes it immensely more clear to me. I've only used it a bit and found it to be very helpful f

Re: [Jprogramming] generating explicit from tacit

2013-09-19 Thread bill lam
I can that you can commit changes to svn, can you explain why you cannot change the lablist.txt? On 19 Sep, 2013, at 3:12 PM, Ian Clark wrote: > It's okay Bill, I've located the one verb I've used in misc.ijs and copied > it into tte.ijs. > > It works fine now in JQt. > > But to run: tte.ijs

Re: [Jprogramming] generating explicit from tacit

2013-09-19 Thread Ian Clark
It's okay Bill, I've located the one verb I've used in misc.ijs and copied it into tte.ijs. It works fine now in JQt. But to run: tte.ijs -needs this line inserting in lablist.txt: Debug;Explicate a given tacit verb;~addons/debug/tte/tte.ijt open '~addons/labs/labs/lablist.txt' NB. -to do t

Re: [Jprogramming] generating explicit from tacit

2013-09-18 Thread bill lam
Try load the specific script inside the specific misc folder require '~addons/.../misc/ijs' On 19 Sep, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Ian Clark wrote: > Further to this, I've uploaded a new addon: 'debug/tte' > > used like this: > require 'debug/tte' > mytacitverb tte > > Studio > Labs --shows a n

Re: [Jprogramming] generating explicit from tacit

2013-09-18 Thread Ian Clark
Further to this, I've uploaded a new addon: 'debug/tte' used like this: require 'debug/tte' mytacitverb tte Studio > Labs --shows a new lab under Category: Debug: Explicate (convert to explicit) a given tacit verb Or you can get some rough'n'ready documentation with: ABOUT_tte_ At

Re: [Jprogramming] generating explicit from tacit

2013-09-16 Thread Roger Stokes
Many thanks, Bill Ro0ger - Original Message - From: "bill lam" To: Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] generating explicit from tacit Done. BTW I notice there may be a couple of spelling errors, eg. "expresssion" in 18.h

Re: [Jprogramming] generating explicit from tacit

2013-09-16 Thread bill lam
re.com/help/learning and the corresponding folder for > addons/docs/help/learning. > > Apologies and thanks. > > > - Original Message - From: "Joe Bogner" > To: > Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 10:37 PM > Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] generating explic

Re: [Jprogramming] generating explicit from tacit

2013-09-16 Thread Ian Clark
It would be nice, as a service to newcomers, for this to be complete, or at least kept broadly up-to-date: http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Guides/Tacit_to_explicit_roadmap so people don't have to stumble around in this rather important area. PM me with what's missing and I'll do it. Or add it yours

Re: [Jprogramming] generating explicit from tacit

2013-09-16 Thread Roger Stokes
arning and the corresponding folder for addons/docs/help/learning. Apologies and thanks. - Original Message - From: "Joe Bogner" To: Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] generating explicit from tacit I did more goog

Re: [Jprogramming] generating explicit from tacit

2013-09-15 Thread Joe Bogner
Thanks Ian. trace looks helpful too. I hadn't stumbled upon that yet. On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Ian Clark wrote: > Joe Bogner asks: > " Is there a utility to generate an explicit definition from a tacit > definition?" > > There've certainly been attempts at one. There hasn't been any pub

Re: [Jprogramming] generating explicit from tacit

2013-09-15 Thread Ian Clark
Joe Bogner asks: " Is there a utility to generate an explicit definition from a tacit definition?" There've certainly been attempts at one. There hasn't been any published improvement on this one by Zsban Ambrus: http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Scripts/TacitToExplicit ...though I've had an add-on o

Re: [Jprogramming] generating explicit from tacit

2013-09-15 Thread Pascal Jasmin
[Jprogramming] generating explicit from tacit Thanks Pascal. I read your essay the other day and it was helpful. I think I have two challenges right now - figuring out the part of speech for each word and then how the parts are composed together. For the parts of speech, I just found the Parts of

Re: [Jprogramming] generating explicit from tacit

2013-09-15 Thread Joe Bogner
Thanks Pascal. I read your essay the other day and it was helpful. I think I have two challenges right now - figuring out the part of speech for each word and then how the parts are composed together. For the parts of speech, I just found the Parts of Speech index http://www.jsoftware.com/docs/he

Re: [Jprogramming] generating explicit from tacit

2013-09-15 Thread km
About representation in boxes you may be thinking of the "foreign" 5!:2 . See http://www.jsoftware.com/docs/help701/dictionary/dx005.htm Sent from my iPad On Sep 15, 2013, at 1:10 PM, Joe Bogner wrote: > I'm learning the evaluation rules for tacit expressions, since that is > what's commonly

Re: [Jprogramming] generating explicit from tacit

2013-09-15 Thread Pascal Jasmin
ry page on hooks and forks:  http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/PascalJasmin/Use%20Forks%20Instead%20of%20Hooks - Original Message - From: Joe Bogner To: programm...@jsoftware.com Cc: Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 2:10:43 PM Subject: [Jprogramming] generating explicit from tacit I'

[Jprogramming] generating explicit from tacit

2013-09-15 Thread Joe Bogner
I'm learning the evaluation rules for tacit expressions, since that is what's commonly posted as solutions. Is there a utility to generate an explicit definition from a tacit definition? For example, to generate a tacit expression from explicit 13 : '(+/ y) % # y' +/ % # Is there some routine