Re: [PEDA] spaces in filenames (was: spaces in footprint names)

2002-03-13 Thread Dwight Harm
This was discussed on the list around 1/25/02. There was a note from someone indicating that Camtastic has a bug related to path length; here's the text: "To stop this from occurring, you need to keep the entire path name, from the drive letter to the last character of the filename's extension (

Re: [PEDA] spaces in filenames (was: spaces in footprint names)

2002-03-13 Thread Matt . VanDeWerken
G'Day Emanuel (and others): No experience with this specifically, but I've learnt from bitter experience that spaces in filenames are a Bad Idea(tm), period. I don't care what application you're using, as soon as you put spaces in filenames you open up a whole can of worms when you're trying to a

[PEDA] spaces in filenames (was: spaces in footprint names)

2002-03-13 Thread Emanuel Zimmermann
It seems that not only spaces in footprints can cause trouble but in filenames also. Yesterday I generated my cam-files from a pcb-file that I had saved with "save as..." from the file menu. This by default changes the filename to "copy of xyz.pcb". The Gerbers generated from this file seem to

Re: [PEDA] Tango Schematic into Protel

2002-03-13 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 03:07 PM 3/13/2002 -0600, Jon Elson wrote: >I was ver disappointed to find out that Protel provides no way to >do this. Well, I think there is a way, but I have to go out of town for four days. I have some schematics to translate to see if it works, but the path is basically to write the Tan

Re: [PEDA] DOS based line width calculator

2002-03-13 Thread Matt Polak
Also useful on the same token: http://www.aracnet.com/cgi-usr/gpatrick/trace.pl And a very robust set of free tools: http://www.ultracad.com/calc.htm -- Matt At 09:14 AM 3/14/2002 +1100, you wrote: >Have a look at: > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/protel-users/files/ > >Find

Re: [PEDA] Interest in sharing libraries and footprints? (was Libraries for PIC processors)

2002-03-13 Thread Matt Polak
At 05:29 PM 3/13/2002 -0500, you wrote: >I would love to see a library of schematic symbols and footprints for the >parts in the Digikey catalog like ORCAD did. I am often putting together a >quick proof of concept prototype and I always need something I don't have >so I have to build symbols a

[PEDA] Libraries for PIC processors and other common prototype parts

2002-03-13 Thread Larry G. Nelson Sr.
I would love to see a library of schematic symbols and footprints for the parts in the Digikey catalog like ORCAD did. I am often putting together a quick proof of concept prototype and I always need something I don't have so I have to build symbols and footprints. Is there another source of l

Re: [PEDA] DOS based line width calculator

2002-03-13 Thread Thomas
Have a look at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/protel-users/files/ Find a file called amptrack.exe (not sure if it's the one you were after). > -Original Message- > From: Sean James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, 13 March 2002 11:22 PM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: [P

Re: [PEDA] Push & shove

2002-03-13 Thread Sean James
Sometimes I get a little brain dead. - Original Message - From: "Tony Karavidas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 3:53 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Push & shove > Shift-R > > (It's on the online help) > > Tony > > > > -Orig

Re: [PEDA] Tango Schematic into Protel

2002-03-13 Thread Jon Elson
Bob Wolfe wrote: > Hi All, > Is there any way to import an older Tango Schematic into Protel. > The Tango schematic is in binary format, and all I really need to > do is print out this schematic. Any help would be appriciated. > Or does anyone have Tango and be willing to output these 3 pages int

Re: [PEDA] Push & shove

2002-03-13 Thread Tony Karavidas
Shift-R (It's on the online help) Tony > -Original Message- > From: Sean James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:30 PM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: [PEDA] Push & shove > > > Is there an easy way to toggle between "Avoid obstacle" and "Push > Obstac

Re: [PEDA] +3V Power Port

2002-03-13 Thread Jon Elson
Sean James wrote: > Does anybody have a +3V and a -2.5V power port schematic button graphic > created? You can create these in a few minutes. You can pull the existing icons into paint and change the numbers, and put the new icons back with the rest of them. Then, you use the big down arrow on

[PEDA] Push & shove

2002-03-13 Thread Sean James
Is there an easy way to toggle between "Avoid obstacle" and "Push Obstacle"? Sean James PCB Designer Telecast Fiber Systems 102 Grove Street Worcester, MA 01603 TEL 508-754-4858 x33 FAX 413-541-6170 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL P

[PEDA] help with network setup

2002-03-13 Thread Liane Williams
Hi everyone, We have only installed Protel 99SE SP6 this year on our network, and I have just starting introducing the pcb editor to the students. I am not a network IT person but will attempt to describe the problem(s). Most of the students had a problem showing itself when we browsed pcb li

Re: [PEDA] Single Sided PCB

2002-03-13 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 06:36 AM 3/13/2002 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Ah, but the radius of curvature at the "corners" is much smaller, leading to >a stress point for peel to start, which is what started this discussion. >Protel's version of rounded pads are actually better in that respect. For a pad with x >

Re: [PEDA] spaces in footprint names

2002-03-13 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 06:49 AM 3/13/2002 -0600, Bryn Wolfe wrote: >I think we're getting a little too much of the old school of thought here. Hmm... the "old school of thought" was that documentation and references should be clear and unambiguous. No, we don't have enough of the old school, not too much. > Not

[PEDA] Translating footprints

2002-03-13 Thread Peder K. Hellegaard

[PEDA] IPL to Protel translator

2002-03-13 Thread Peder K. Hellegaard

[PEDA] +3V Power Port

2002-03-13 Thread Sean James
Does anybody have a +3V and a -2.5V power port schematic button graphic created? Sean James PCB Designer Telecast Fiber Systems 102 Grove Street Worcester, MA 01603 TEL 508-754-4858 x33 FAX 413-541-6170 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMA

Re: [PEDA] Mismatching gerber

2002-03-13 Thread Brad Velander
Kiernan, Ian's explanation below is correct. What you're seeing are drawn pads rather then flashed rectangular pads. A major shortcoming of Protel if you are doing very fine or finicky work. As for your soldermask encroachment, that will not be an issue because the soldermask pad will be d

Re: [PEDA] spaces in footprint names

2002-03-13 Thread Brad Velander
Bryn, I cannot recall exactly what the problem is but Protel does have some issue with lower case letters in library parts. Again this is something that forced me to change a bunch of library part/footprint names shortly after starting to use Protel. It fails at some less then everyday fun

Re: [PEDA] Protel gerber import???

2002-03-13 Thread Cobbe,John
Hi Joe I don't know if this is an option for you, but we use an old copy of Protel ver 2.8 to convert old Dos generated gerbers into Protel databases . It does a much better job of importing gerber than any of the new and improved versions. 274x files will import without a hitch as long as the co

Re: [PEDA] Mismatching gerber

2002-03-13 Thread Ian Capps
Kiernan What you are getting is drawn pads. Protel doesn't export flash pads in anything other 90 degree rotation it draws them with a round trace instead (which is why you are seeing the rounded corners) Some gerber programmes will allow a custom aperture to give a flash pad at a variety of ang

Re: [PEDA] Protel gerber import???

2002-03-13 Thread Ian Capps
Joe I have a WORD macro to convert it is a but cumbersome but it does work. It will take a while to find it but if you wish you can have it. Ian - Original Message - From: "Joe McCauley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 10:22

Re: [PEDA] Mismatching gerber

2002-03-13 Thread John M. Cardone
Kiernan, You may have produced the components pads with a "fill" area rather then a pad definition. A fill area would be painted by available round apertures (gerber legacy) resulting in radii at the corners. A pad is defined in the gerber data as a particular shape and is "flashed" at it's origin

Re: [PEDA] Protel gerber import???

2002-03-13 Thread Steve Smith
Like Mike I've had better results with DXF file imports. If you would like to talk to someone who knows Camtastic, send a e-mail to Danny Carr ([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]). He says he helped developed Camtastic and is very knowledgable about it. Steve Smith Product Engineer Staco Ene

[PEDA] Mismatching gerber

2002-03-13 Thread kiernan_fitzpatrick
I've just managed to get a PCB created under Protel and I'm struggling to get the gerber output to match what's on the Protel screen. I've got several components (that I've created myself) which use very small rectangular pads and I've used these components at several angles all over the PCB. W

Re: [PEDA] Protel gerber import???

2002-03-13 Thread Mike Reagan
Joe, I havent tried the gerber import in Protel (from Camtasic) however, if you can not import the Camtastic gerbers, export them to dxf in Camtk, then import them as dxf in Protel. We have dont this often with good results Mike Reagan EDSI - Original Message - From: Joe McCauley <[

Re: [PEDA] spaces in footprint names

2002-03-13 Thread Bryn Wolfe
Abd ul-Rahman, I think we're getting a little too much of the old school of thought here. Not allowing lowercase is just too primative. If you're going to take away the spaces, give me my lowercase. To avoid the filename-in-quotations-because-of-spaces problem I rarely use spaces and instead

[PEDA] DOS based line width calculator

2002-03-13 Thread Sean James
I lost this program when my OS crashed. Does anybody know where I can find it again? Sean James PCB Designer Telecast Fiber Systems 102 Grove Street Worcester, MA 01603 TEL 508-754-4858 x33 FAX 413-541-6170 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:

[PEDA] Protel gerber import???

2002-03-13 Thread Joe McCauley

Re: [PEDA] spaces in footprint names

2002-03-13 Thread Steve Wiseman
On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: > I'm not fond of lower case Ls. There is also a problem with O and zero > which is not so easy to solve, unless it is insisted that zero have a slash. I don't suppose anybody's got a non-ambiguous font, have they? (needs to be non-proportional and

Re: [PEDA] Single Sided PCB

2002-03-13 Thread HxEngr