Here's how to install protel under wine. Note that this will not get you to
a working installation, but it will at least set it up to a stage where you
can run the debugger...
1. Install wine (obviously). I installed the latest release (20040309). Make
sure it's set up correctly; I used winesetupt
If you aren't interested in running protel under linux or freebsd, then read
no further...
If you are interested, or have done it, please read on.
I have got as far as getting protel99se installed using the latest version
of wine (20040309). However, when I try to run it, I get a runtime error
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Thanks Harry:
Unfortunately I didn't get to try this out, since I fixed the ratsnest by
using the netlist manager to update free primitives from component pads; I
don't know if the tracks are still there or not, but they certainly don't
appear when I print. I hope my board doesn't come back with s
Hi all:
Using P99SE PCB, I deleted some tracks, and I got left over some zero-length
tracks that I can't delete. I can't select the zero-length tracks either, at
least by drawing a box around them nor by select-all-net. Any ideas how to
delete these rogue tracks that disturb my rats-nest?
Cheers,
Yes, it is worth your while, at least in 99SE. It's quite straightforward,
if what you mean is you want to print individual layers of a PCB you've
drawn.
Open the PCB you've drawn in Prtoel, then press F-P (file-print). This will
generate a default printout. Click on the tab at the top of the file
>
> Hi all,
>
> When I print a schematic on my Brother HL 1440, the text is
> upside down
> and back to front.
>
> If I print a Text document it is fine.
>
> Any Ideas ??
Use a mirror to read it??
Cheers,
MvdW
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* To post a message:
IMNSHO, protel and other cad packages went a long way backwards when they
moved away from text formats. Sure, binary might be smaller, and harder to
reverse-engineer, but there's nothing like being able to run a design
through a shell script and being able to change numerous values. Scripting
langu
Others have already answered this question, but if there's any doubt at all
in your own mind, you have a couple of options available to you.
1. Get company #2 to pay for a valid protel licence.
2. Install autotrax, the old dos-based protel that is now available for free
download from altium. It's
What we do here is to make a DIP-like prototype board for our FPGA's,
complete with clock chip, configuration PROM, programming header, etc etc,
with all the I/O's to pins on board. We can either use this for prototyping
on bread board, or can even put it into a socket (made up of strip-header
sock
An easier method for doing this hand-soldering is to use what is known as a
mini-wave tip. It's a concave cupped tip that you fill with solder, and use
exactly as you describe - drag it along the pads. If the pads have been
designed right, it's really easy to do. Even without any special allowances
I do now, but I don't think I did when I first ran it. I've pretty much
solved the problem (except for the duplicate net errors I have to delete
each time) by removing all nets from the pcb, then re-synchronising (of
course, adding connected copper to nets).
Cheers,
Matthew van de Werken
Electroni
>
> At 12:36 PM 28/11/02 +1000, you wrote:
> >Hi all:
> >
> >I usually use a hierarchical structure for my schematic
> documents, with a
> >main document with all the connectors on it, then below that a block
> >diagram, and then the actual circuitry on one or more levels
> below that.
> >
> >I'
Another data point:
When I just create a netlist, there are duplicate nets with the same name
formed - the solution here is obviously to generate only one net with that
name, and append the new nodes to the existing net. Is there an easy way of
doing this, since I'll have to do it numerous times a
Hi all:
I usually use a hierarchical structure for my schematic documents, with a
main document with all the connectors on it, then below that a block
diagram, and then the actual circuitry on one or more levels below that.
I'm currently doing a reasonable-sized board, with lots of digital lines
I know it's poor form to reply to my own message, but it seems that it's
positioned below Protel in the market place ($3k a seat vs $7k a seat). I've
signed up for a trial CD, we'll see how it runs...
Cheers,
Matthew van de Werken
Electronics Engineer
CSIRO Exploration & Mining - Gravity Group
1 T
I got an email from Altium today espousing the virtues of their latest
product, being "nvisage". It seems to offer nothing that DXP doesn't offer,
and vice-versa (except maybe Protel has an autorouter), so what's the deal?
Where is this product positioned (I see no real mention of a price point);
i
Yes, I do realise I can do a direct copy/paste, but the method described has
the following advantages:
* it gets rather tedious when I have 27 sheets in the schematic; this way I
get 27 files that I can import directly into word without having to
buggerise around with flitting back and forth betwe
Hi all:
I have been asked to import all my schematic docs into word, which I know
sounds like a fun job, but in fact isn't. To make my life easier, I have
devised the following procedure, which you may all use for the same purpose
(and/or adapt for use with pcb's, which I will be doing later...):
If you don't use it, uninstall the server by clicking the down-arrow thingy
next to the 'File' menu item. Select Servers, select the "Route" server,
right-click and select "remove".
Cheers,
Matthew van de Werken
Electronics Engineer
CSIRO Exploration & Mining - Gravity Group
1 Technology Court -
Mine didn't crash (2 mech layers + multilayer all on)
Running P99SE, SP6, win2k sp3.
Cheers,
Matthew van de Werken
Electronics Engineer
CSIRO Exploration & Mining - Gravity Group
1 Technology Court - Pullenvale - Qld - 4069
ph: (07) 3327 4685 fax: (07) 3327 4455
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Robert:
Turn off the online DRC, or at least be more selective about what you enable
the on-line DRC for - this should improve your performance. Also, the
autosave takes a little while every 15 inutes or so - you can increase the
time interval for that.
I run it on a PIII-500, and the perform
>
> BTW, I recently saw LinuxCAD's website. It seems they offer
> an AutoCAD
> replacement for $99. And they offer versions that run on
> Windows, for those
> who don't use Linux yet. I don't know how good their product
> is, I just saw
> the website.
>
The mail I get on LinuxCAD is to s
I've never had a problem making pdf's from my schematics. I use a postscript
printer, setup to print to file, then use ghostscript to convert the
postscript to a pdf. The output quality depends on which PS printer you
choose; generally Apple ones are pretty good.
I've got the whole lot running fr
>
> Sounds like a miracle! :)
>
> Maybe MS should investigate how their OS should run by
> looking at Win4Lin.
> Seriously, maybe Win4Lin provides a 'nicer' system to Windows
> (more memory,
> smarter swapping algorithms, etc.) Yeah, I should give it a shot.
>
win4lin doesn't provide more me
I agree Dennis. A further part of our problem is that we have about 15
computers with Protel installed, all over our site, using floating licenses.
The graphic is in a shared directory, which everyone has mapped to the same
place, but it still doesn't always work.
A solution to this problem would
I have added a bitmap image to the schematic template I normally use.
However, when I apply the template to an existing document, then reopen the
document, sometimes the image isn't there. Whether or not the image appears
seems to be pretty much a random event. Does anyone know of a remedy for
thi
I've had problems if I don't have the actual pcb file opened as well as the
ppc viewer.
Cheers,
Matthew van de Werken
Electronics Engineer
CSIRO Exploration & Mining - Gravity Group
1 Technology Court - Pullenvale - Qld - 4069
ph: (07) 3327 4685 fax: (07) 3327 4455
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -Original Message-
> From: Ian Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, 16 May 2002 10:42 AM
> To: Protel EDA Forum
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] startup window
>
>
> At 07:09 PM 15/05/02 -0500, you wrote:
> >On Thu, 16 May 2002 08:45:05 +1000, Ian Wilson wrote:
> >
> > > If the ent
>
> (Steve Hendrix Wrote):
> > by the financial types. Looks like I'm stuck with P99SEsp6,
> warts and all,
> > until that next entrepeneur gets going. Hmmm, my degree is
> in computer
> > science (I started out doing mostly programming), and I've
> now got a lot
> of
> > experience designing
Just one more note on spaces in filenames. If you have a whole bunch of
files/directories with spaces in their names, and you want to get rid of the
spaces, here's a small(!) command you can run at the cygwin bash prompt:
Run this one first, which renames all directories under the current
directo
Hi Ian and others:
At the moment it's a once-off thing, but it's something that I'm planning to
do more often as time goes on. I really need to get this documentation in
order; the easier it is to do it on a regular basis the more likely it is to
be done on a regular basis ;-). I already have set
I have a need to walk through an entire design database, and perform certain
operations on each file (ie, print schematics and pcb's to a file). It being
a multi-design database (there are maybe 12 pcb's, each with several
revisions in the database), is there an easy way to accomplish this, maybe
G'Day Emanuel (and others):
No experience with this specifically, but I've learnt from bitter experience
that spaces in filenames are a Bad Idea(tm), period. I don't care what
application you're using, as soon as you put spaces in filenames you open up
a whole can of worms when you're trying to a
I think the most interesting thing about this post is that the poster
alleges others have a lot of free time, when it could be suggested that the
act of counting posts by author implies free time to perform such
frivolities. Of course, this post suggests I have too much free time, too...
Cheers,
That's not a bug, it's a "feature". One of the debatable behaviours of
editors is that if you are in "overwrite" mode, that the overwrite mode
should extend to between lines - this is the behaviour that Protel is
exhibiting in this instance. It's debatable whether or not this is
"correct"; by the
> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Brand [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2002 2:59 AM
> To: Protel EDA Forum
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] Tasking Offer
>
>
> I was wondering about this last week, so I fired off an email
> to Altium.
> This is the reply I receiv
>
> At 01:17 AM 1/26/2002 +1100, Graeme Zimmer wrote:
> >All our machines run Win2K with oodles of resources.
> >
> >Running more than one copy of Protel at a time is guaranteed
> to crash any of
> >our machines.
>
> Note that Mr. Zimmer also experiences problems when he closes
> Protel with
>
>
> > ... I worked with PHD math major who walked around with a coffee mug
> > most of the time sharing his paradoxes of math algorithms
> and equating
> them
> > to real world applications. He once told me the boring
> mathematical
> theory
> > how to stack oranges in the most efficient
>
> Altium is working investing in getting Protel to work in
> XP. I don't know what
> you guys think, but Protel is a commercial application
> product. I don't think it has
> any business working in XP. Even Altera says that their
> Quartus will only be
> certified to work in Win2K. T
Hi Steve:
One way to acheive this is to place two schematic parts one over the other.
That way all the connectivity will be the same for both, and there will be
two pcb parts registered in the database. It will look ugly, though, because
all the pins will have junctions at the ends.
Cheers,
Matt
I'm the exact opposite of this. I try to make each schematic part look like
its function, rather than its physical layout. That way, the schematic will
be a proper abstraction of the circuit, rather than a rough draft of the
PCB. IMO it makes the schematic easier to read and understand if it's
abs
>
> My biggest gripe of M$ OS's is that to install most programs
> you need to
> reboot, and if you are installing multiple programs and choose not to
> reboot, funny registry corruption can occur (which is hit and
> miss, may
> happen to 1 of 10 identical builds)
>
> Atleast with the *nix's u
>
> I managed 283days uptime on my Windows 2000 work station and
> thats using
> Protel, Word, Excel and numerous other application everyday
> and just loging
> off at night.
That sounds about right for Windows 2000.
>
> The reboot came when I installed service pack 2, 114 days ago
> and ye
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