Remove the printer driver, and then re-install it
Ted
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From: Ian Rozowsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 10:41 AM
To: Protel EDA Forum (E-mail)
Subject: [PEDA] 99SE Print Preview problem
Hi Group
I've been using 99SE SP6 for years now, and
above, but now I can not seem to find them. Have they been moved, am I
looking in the wrong spot? Could someone point me in the right direction?
Regards,
Ted Tontis C.I.D.
Engage Networks, Inc.
1320 N. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Drive
River Level
Milwaukee, WI 53212
PH 414-918-4267
FX 414-273
thank you.
That is an older archive. There is a current archive kept on
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I have not received my copy yet.
Ted,
Milwaukee WI
-Original Message-
From: Burt Bicksler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 6:40 PM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: [PEDA] Tasking software
Just wondering..
Is anyone else here in the states still waiting for the
, checked that all the drill holes are really holes, confirmed that
the .legend is really there, and tried it on another data base. The only
thing I have not tried is to completely remove Protel and re install it. Has
anyone else had the displeasure of having this happen to them?
Thank you,
Ted Tontis
Thanks, Mike that was it. Do you know what originally caused this problem?
Regards,
Ted
Ted,
Delete .legend from your design
Reset origin
Set Grid to 25 mils
place .legend on drill drwg layer on grid
Generate gerbers
View with gerber viewer
See if this works
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Mike,
If this is just to view the files Camtastic offers a free viewer
http://www.camtastic.com/en/downloads/sfiles.asp you just will not be able
to edit the files.
Regards,
Ted
-Original Message-
From: Michael Reagan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 3:06
I have not yet really had a chance to push protel hard under XP, but
I have not had any problems yet (knock on wood). I have been running XP for
two months.
Ted
-Original Message-
From: Bob Puckette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 2:12 PM
To: Protel
Mike,
use this stack up
non critical
gnd
critical
-5
gnd
critical
+5 (better if this was ground)
non critical
or
gnd
critical
non critical
power
gnd
non critical
critical
gnd (if power switch critical and non critical)
two reasons why I say put the critical in the
In the 50's there was a car that was also a boat. You could drive it on both
land and water. I just thought it was kind of ironic that you used that
particular one.:)
Ted
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 12:56 PM
use the select all option, deselect the fill, cut the pins, and then paste
them back. Just make sure that when you paste them the curser has not
moved, or you will place them off the fill. remember to deselect all after
you pasted the pins back on.
Regards,
Ted
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have not had it run over keepouts
make sure your 'board' via size makes sense relative to your width and
space and routing channel
Dennis Saputelli
Ted Tontis wrote:
I have some time on my hands and I figured I would mess with the
auto router. I have been running into some problems
direction that I can get would be great. I am running Protel 99SE and
WIN2K SPK6
Regards,
Ted Tontis C.I.D.
Engage Networks
316 N. Milwaukee Street
Suite 214
Milwaukee WI, 53202
PH 414-273-7600 ext. 7607
FX 414-273-7601
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The board can still be auto routed with arcs on the keep out for the
border, it just ignores them. Have you run the drc, or check to see if you
have any violations on the navigation panel. What was the last trace size
that you placed? If I remember right that auto router will default to
The best and quickest way I have addressed this problem is to use
mid layer 30, I place a courtyard around the component just outside the
pads. I use a .5mm grid, it is an electrical trace now you can use the DRC
to keep your spacing between your pads and overlay. The only draw back is
Mr. Lomax wrote:
I do not understand how using a layer 30 courtyard will help, unless you
also move the reference designators to layer 30. Perhaps Mr. Tontis will
give us further detals. However, this will, if I my expectation is
correct,
check the bounds box for the text, not
that
has no weight. Most of Protel's existing
customers, like my self are sitting on the fence post regarding Total
Support, and most can not afford to make the Total
Support jump. Without knowing what it is that we are getting I can not
force management to make that investment.
Regards,
Ted
I just talked to a sales rep. regarding the 20% discount. It is for 98 users
only, they get 20% off the 99SE price and one year of ATS. They have to pay
the full price for Phoenix when it is released.
regards,
Ted
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From: Frank Gilley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:
.
Clive B
Ted Tontis [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/14/2001 01:25:59 AM
Please respond to Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:(bcc: Clive Broome/sdc)
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Fwd: Protel 99 SE Training Manual now available for do
wnload
make sure that remove dead copper is not selected.
Ted
-Original Message-
From: Sean James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:28 PM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: [PEDA] URGENT!!!
What would keep a polygon pour from not forming if
A. There are no keepouts.
Minimum Conductor Widths For PCBs
Temperature Rise Above Ambient
For 1/2 oz Copper
Amperage Ambient Temperature Conductor Width
1 AMP 45C (113F) .013
1.5 AMP 45C (113F) .025
2 AMP 45C (113F) .033
3 AMP 45C (113F) .050
4 AMP 45C (113F) .073
5 AMP 45C (113F) .110
6 AMP 45C (113F) .125
7
, thanks.
But, one more thingWho is Chris Robertson?
Steve
-Original Message-
From: Ted Tontis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 November 2001 15:06
To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Copper Calculations
Minimum Conductor Widths For PCBs
Temperature Rise Above Ambient
For 1
of. Changing the export to metric, using arc's, convert polygons to vector
fills, type absolute and incremental, and zero suppression. Is there some
thing I am missing?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
Ted Tontis C.I.D.
Engage Networks
316 N. Milwaukee Street
Suite 214
Chris,
I am no expert on test points, but I have added them to existing
boards. I have found that the test point grid has to match the via grid. Try
setting the grid to .001 mil and see if it works, you should get more test
points to show up. As for the auto router and the test points I
I believe he is trying to put supporting holes around the top of the PTH.
Ted
-Original Message-
From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 5:04 PM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Pad with multiple holes surrounding it.
At 10:36 AM
on it.
Regards,
Ted
-Original Message-
From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 5:52 PM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Pad with multiple holes surrounding it.
At 02:22 PM 9/18/01 -0500, Ted Tontis wrote:
I believe he is trying
You can set the grid in the lib. to be metric and when done adjusting the
part switch it to a imperial grid and save it. The translation is made when
you switch the grids.
Ted
-Original Message-
From: Jon Elson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 2:17 PM
To:
I just received the same message. This is the second time I received it this
year. I brought this to the attention of the group when I first received it
about 6/7 months ago. Our IT guy says it is because tech serv is trying to
route through our server. Our e-mail server is set not to allow
Seems as though I had an e-mail bounced from the techserv. Did anyone
receive the e-mail I sent in response to the removed from proteledaforum?
Thank you,
Ted Tontis C.I.D.
Engage Networks
316 N. Milwaukee Street
Suite 214
Milwaukee WI, 53202
PH 414-273-7600 ext. 7607
FX 414-273-7601
Below is the first message I had bounced. I rest my error count I don't know
if that had anything to do with it.
Ted
I just received the same message. This is the second time I received it this
year. I brought this to the attention of the group when I first received it
about 6/7 months ago.
a break away tab that is made up of multiple drills. kind of looks like a
mouse took a bite out of the board.
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-Original Message-
From: Darryl Newberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August
I have a few components that I have imported into Protel for that standard
lib. If anyone would be interested in looking at them and give some feed
back I would like to hear from them.
There are only a few components nothing major, small files.
Ted Tontis C.I.D.
Engage Networks
316 N
They do not go away. I brought this up to Protel when they released SPK6,
that's when I noticed it. I would auto route a board and when finished hit
unroute and it would leave floaters in different spots across the board. At
first I thought it was just a fluke but I tried it again same thing, I
have you tried to repair the data base?
Ted
-Original Message-
From: Robison Michael R CNIN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 2:54 PM
To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
Subject: [PEDA] ddb transfer failure ??
hi everybody,
well, i'm not having a banner day here. somebody
What is the ball pitch? There are ways to play with both track, via, and
ball size to route the board with lots of room left to run tracks from out
side the BGA. Is the ball grid causing you to go to the 10 layer count? what
size vias are you using, what size tracks? If the ball grid has a lage
check out www.ce-mag.com
Ted
-Original Message-
From: Brad Velander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 11:38 AM
To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Logo's for FCC, UL and CE ?
Gisbert,
I am not a CE compliance expert and I do not have access to
give me the foot print number you are looking for I have a hand full.
Ted
-Original Message-
From: Darryl Newberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 12:53 PM
To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Compactflash socket PCB footprint
I have a JST #
I have 10 and they are all AMP foot prints. Sorry no JST.
Ted
-Original Message-
From: Ted Tontis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 1:03 PM
To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Compactflash socket PCB footprint
give me the foot print number you
Correct me if I am wrong but Protel just started using IBIS models SPK6 for
there signal simulation.
Ted
-Original Message-
From: Mike Ingle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 3:27 PM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Signal Integrity dialog locks up.
I started the thread on this subject. I knew the size of this
project was going to be large, that is why I posted the thread in the first
place. I wanted to see if anyone else would like to help or even if anyone
wanted to have a large library system that was free. My idea was to get
development
time down considerably.
Ted
-Original Message-
From: Andrew J Jenkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 12:35 PM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] a lib. for everyone
On 10:03 AM 7/25/2001 -0700, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
At 09:29 AM 7/25/01 -0500, Ted
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From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 1:03 AM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] a lib. for everyone
Mr. Lomax
snip
What I forsee is a system whereby a user wishes to use a part which is not
in the library we have
layer = bottom layer?
and how does conductive help?
Dennis Saputelli
Ted Tontis wrote:
The standards are all ready set. I do not have control of them, this task
was put into motion sometime ago. If you want to look at the standards you
can at www.pcbstandards.com . again I have no control
I checked the archive for a thread regarding this but its not
there. I want to take a power PCB v3.6 file and import it into Protel. I was
told at one time this could be done?
Thank you,
Ted Tontis C.I.D.
Engage Networks
316 N. Milwaukee Street
Suite 214
Milwaukee WI, 53202
PH 414-273
,
assembly art work, pin 1 id. All parts would be in mm I welcome any input
towards this idea weather it be good or bad.
Ted Tontis C.I.D.
Engage Networks
316 N. Milwaukee Street
Suite 214
Milwaukee WI, 53202
PH 414-273-7600 ext. 7607
FX 414-273-7601
Yesterday there was a thread on file formats for PCB manufacturers. Here is
where you can find the gerber specification in .pdf format.
http://www.barco.be/ets/data/rs274xc.pdf
Regards,
Ted Tontis C.I.D.
Engage Networks
316 N. Milwaukee Street
Suite 214
Milwaukee WI, 53202
PH 414-273-7600 ext
?
Thank you,
Ted Tontis C.I.D.
Engage Networks
316 N. Milwaukee Street
Suite 214
Milwaukee WI, 53202
PH 414-273-7600 ext. 7607
FX 414-273-7601
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I was at that same IPC designers conference. It was not a IPC conference but
it was sponsored by the designers council which does not have a direct
affiliation to IPC, they are there own entity, and just carry the IPC name.
There where two topics that related to data transfer, one by Deter
I never heard of the 20H rule, So I did a search on it. I found some very
interesting articles on the subject, while I was searching I came across a
article on X2Y technology. Has anyone used any of these devices? If so do
they work as described and offer differential impedance within or close to
You would hope that with as many people who have had this problem or needed
a work around, Protel would realize that they should add something to the
design rules. Possibly a design rule that lets you have a zero clearance
between a net. Or the ability to open the track attributes and check a box
Mike,
What standards did you purchase? I believe that if you are a IPC
designer council member you can only purchase standards, visit seminars, and
use your coupon on subjects related to design. So assembly stuff is out.
Abd ul-Rahman,
I just attended a IPC cert. course. There
Warning
Could not process message with given Content-Type:
multipart/mixed;boundary=_=_NextPart_000_01C108B5.1E11F280
I disabled my global clearance constraint.
Thanks for the help,
Ted Tontis
Design Engineer
Engage Networks Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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advice on solving a trouble spot.
You're advice would be greatly appreciated, I do not have the time to
download trial software and test it myself. Who knows how long there
pocket's will stay open for.
Thank you,
Ted Tontis
Design Engineer
Engage Networks Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PH 414.273.7600 Ext
I just received a e-mail I sent a week ago and it never made it through.
Just wanted to make sure.
Ted Tontis
Design Engineer
Engage Networks Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PH 414.273.7600 Ext. 7607http://www.engagenet.com
You may want to try to using the save as, change the name of your new board,
then export it to your desktop, and then import into your new data base.
Ted
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From: Rudolf Schaffer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 8:06 AM
To: Protel EDA Forum
If the DRC is not set to write to a report, you will not get a DRC report.
To set it up go into Design, select Design rule check, and see if there is a
check box in the create report file. As for the protected file, are you
running this on a network? If so someone maybe in the same file which
If I may, when I have a data sheet that has been designed in mm and it is a
fine pitch component I use a excel spread sheet to confirm the change over.
Here is an example
Millimeters Meters Inches Mil (0.001 in)
0.0011.000E-06 39.370E-060.039370
0.0022.000E-06
There is a BITMAP importer that is on the download page for the Protel
forum. If you have access to a scanner, print out your spreadsheet scan it
in as a BITMAP and then import it into your PCB using the importer. I do not
know of another way to save spreadsheets as Bitmap's.
Ted
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a different
effect then using place an arc.
Ted
-Original Message-
From: David Cary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 12:04 PM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Arc's in the keepout
Ted Tontis [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 2001-03-27 09:21:49 AM noted:
I have a design
I would like to move a component that has tracks attached to it. I
would like to move them at the same time. I am trying to avoid replacing all
the tracks and vias. Is this possible, has anyone tried this? I would
appreciate any help that I could get.
Thank you,
Ted Tontis
Engage
not here
Ted
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From: Michael Reynolds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 9:01 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED] '
Subject: [PEDA] Is anybody else getting double posts on all the posts?
Mike Reynolds
Blazie Engineering, a division of Freedom Scientific
be causing
this? Has anyone experienced this before?
Thank you in advance,
Ted Tontis
Engage Networks Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PH 414.273.7600 Ext. 7607http://www.engagenet.com
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Have you tried to import the graphic into a commonly used library? this way
all you have to do is start a library and it is all ways there, click on the
name and you can place it. When the sch. loads it can pull the graphic from
the library.
Ted
-Original Message-
From: Ian Middleton
Gordon,
I believe I have had this problem before, it related to my library
files. I had a library active that did not have any information in it. It
was empty, Every time I would try to produce a net list the computer would
lock up. If I closed it reopened it I will still get the same
I received the flyer too, It did not include the upgrade price. It was just
the price increase of 99SE and the fact that they are offering camtastic
with it. There was no mention of an upgrade, but I did talk to a sales rep a
month or two ago and they informed me that Protel was working on
Message-
From: Jim McGrath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 4:22 PM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] importing DWG files
Ted,
Is the Eagle file in mm and the Protel set to inches? I have seen this cause
a
problem.
Regards,
Jim
Ted Tontis wrote:
I am trying
Emanuel,
I use Protel, here is the forum email address
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/protel-users/files/protelfaq.html
If you can find out anything you need from layout problems to bug's. You
will also get a faster response to your question then if you went to Protel
directly.
As
Sorry to everyone I thought this post came from another forum the IPC tech
net.
Hey it's FRI day
Ted T
-Original Message-
From: Ted Tontis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 9:26 AM
To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
Subject: Re: [PEDA] BGA Design
Emanuel,
I use Protel
What about Protel recently acquiring Tasking for 38 mill., or the recent
partnership with P-CAD 2001 That will put a dent in you're pocket.
Ted
-Original Message-
From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 3:56 PM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re:
was there a attachment? if not then it can not be a virus.
Ted
-Original Message-
From: Brian Guralnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 1:48 PM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Where did this come from nobody@.com
No, sounds like a potential email
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