On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:18:04 +1000 (EST), DUTTON Phil wrote:
I have used Protel to produce schematics and design boards for
many years
and find it an excellent and fair priced tool for the intended
job.
You really consider $8000US a fair priced tool for a package
where schematic capture and PCB
: [PEDA] ATS - don't do it! (was restore defaults...)
I've been told by my boss that for what Altium are offering with ATS
it's
just not going to happen here. DXP is way out of the question.
It's a pity that more people wont jump on this bandwagon. They'll
just keep forking out hard earned
On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:28, you wrote:
I've been told by my boss that for what Altium are offering with ATS it's
just not going to happen here. DXP is way out of the question.
It's a pity that more people wont jump on this bandwagon. They'll
just keep forking out hard earned money for
On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:28, you wrote:
I've been told by my boss that for what Altium are offering with ATS
it's
just not going to happen here. DXP is way out of the question.
It's a pity that more people wont jump on this bandwagon. They'll
just keep forking out hard earned
At 10:29 10.07.02 +1000, you wrote:
Tom,
many of them will join us, they just keep it quiet. It would be probably
better from our users' point of view if more people voiced their opinion.
That would hopefully let them understand we are serious when we say 'We
are not buying this anymore'.
: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 4:09 AM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] ATS - don't do it! (was restore defaults...)
On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:28, you wrote:
I've been told by my boss that for what Altium are offering
with ATS it's
just not going to happen here. DXP is way out of the question
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On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:28, you wrote:
I've been told by my boss that for what Altium are offering
with ATS it's
just not going
On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 23:51, you wrote:
So you've dropped a pro package for a hobby package? Maybe it could be
better, given enough time, but most of the people on this list aren't
hobbyist, then make a living (in part) by doing SCH capture and PCB layout.
Like I said before, what's your time
Igor Gmitrovic wrote:
Tom,
many of them will join us, they just keep it quiet. It would be probably better from
our users' point of view if more people voiced their opinion. That would hopefully
let them understand we are serious when we say 'We are not buying this anymore'.
We made the
there, 'cause they say
it's going away in DXP.
Tony
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Igor Gmitrovic
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Igor Gmitrovic wrote:
Tom,
many of them will join us, they just keep it quiet. It would be probably
better from our users' point of view if more people
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I have to agree that Protel99SE does what I need it to do. And I
have used
it long enough to know the workarounds. The price of upgrading
Tony Karavidas wrote:
I think you're in the minority on P98. I remember really enjoying the update
from prior versions.
What didn't you like about P98?
Well, I was running it on Windows 95, which wasn't recommended. But, that's
what I had. The major problem was with the autorouter, and I
- don't do it! (was restore defaults...)
Igor Gmitrovic wrote:
Tom,
many of them will join us, they just keep it quiet. It would be probably
better from our users' point of view if more people voiced their opinion.
That would hopefully let them understand we are serious when we say 'We
Regarding this discussion, I too will add my voice to those who feel
upgrading to DXP and ATS is not a worthy investment at this point. I would
have been much happier if the software had remained much the same as 99SE,
but with greater functionality. Instead of building a whole new interface,
it
do you know for a fact that the basics have all changed as you say here?
do you have DXP?
Dennis Saputelli
Daniel Webster wrote:
Regarding this discussion, I too will add my voice to those who feel
upgrading to DXP and ATS is not a worthy investment at this point. I would
have been much
Dennis: yes I have DXP and have tested it's various functions. Not all
basics have changed, but several well established ways of operating the
software have been changed, and it appears that these have not added
functionality, just made it harder to re-learn the functions of the
software, to
If he did, he isn't supposed to admit it on this list.
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Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 5:32 PM
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do you know for a fact
- don't do it! (was restore defaults...)
Regarding this discussion, I too will add my voice to those who feel
upgrading to DXP and ATS is not a worthy investment at this point. I would
have been much happier if the software had remained much the same as 99SE,
but with greater functionality. Instead
On 05:32 PM 10/07/2002 -0700, Dennis Saputelli said:
do you know for a fact that the basics have all changed as you say here?
do you have DXP?
Dennis Saputelli
There is a beta program underway as we all know. There is an NDA
(Non-disclosure agreement) covering the beta testers.
Ian Wilson
I've been told by my boss that for what Altium are offering with ATS it's
just not going to happen here. DXP is way out of the question.
It's a pity that more people wont jump on this bandwagon. They'll
just keep forking out hard earned money for defective software.
Likewise here, based
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