At 07:33 AM 12/14/01 -0500, Sean James wrote:
>When I merged 2 boards to create a pallette, 2 of the internal split
>planes of the 2nd board changed nets. Is there any way to prevent this, or
>is it a bug?
There is no way to prevent this and it is not a bug, if you think about how
internal spl
Sean wrote:
>When I merged 2 boards to create a pallette, 2 of the internal split planes
of the 2nd board changed nets. Is there any way to prevent this, or is it a
bug?
Sean,
I am assuming you are panelizing two boards, which are identical. If the
boards are identical use the Paste Specia
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Sean wrote:
>When I merged 2 boards to create a pallette, 2 of the internal split planes
of the 2nd board changed nets. Is there any way to prevent this, or is it a
bug?
Sean,
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> From: Mike Reagan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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what mike r. was suggesting, which i think is a great idea even though i
don't do it that way myself is the following:
don't panelize the the main layout itself, just draw all the fussy
details of the panel, breakaways etc.
then let the bd shop insert the
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> I'm with you Dennis, I never copy the whole board into the panel. I just
use
> another Mechanical layer (usua
But other then that it works just fine. I most
> heartedly suggest
> that all design, checking and editing be absolutely complete before you
> merge boards because after merging editing or DRC checking and other
> operations can become very complex because of unrouted nets
> between boards,
> dup
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From: Michael Reagan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:34 AM
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Brad,
I agree save your orig file after you run drcs, then create a new file to
panelize. So how difficult is it to toggle thru the pla
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I'm with you Dennis, I never copy the whole board into the panel. I just use
another Mechanical layer (usually 3) to create a panelization drawing and
let the fab house deal with it. We always print out the panel drawing and
include it in the ECN packa
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> But other then that it works just fine. I most
> > heartedly suggest
> > that all design, checking and ed
>
Brad wrote:
> understand what your fab shops have told you. Both are layers with mostly
> copper rather than mostly laminate, should be absolutely no difference
> between the two if you designed it to be identical.
>
Brad,
The key is you said "mostly". It is my understanding that polygons o
so in essence what you are saying is too avoid partial planes?
Dennis Saputelli
Michael Reagan wrote:
>
> >
> Brad wrote:
> > understand what your fab shops have told you. Both are layers with mostly
> > copper rather than mostly laminate, should be absolutely no difference
> > between the two i
>
> so in essence what you are saying is too avoid partial planes?
> Dennis Saputelli
>
> >
Correcto mundo Dennis,
And they also hate splits on planes for the same reason but I wont bend on
that one. I have to do split planes.
Mike Reagan
EDSI
Frederick MD
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At 01:33 PM 12/14/01 -0500, Michael Reagan wrote:
>I agree save your orig file after you run drcs, then create a new file to
>panelize. So how difficult is it to toggle thru the plane layers, view them
>and reconnect planes?
The bottom line is that the photoplot people can panelize in seconds,
At 04:09 PM 12/14/01 -0500, Sean James wrote:
>I like using split planes; using a poured internal plane is the same as an
>external plane - every time you add or move holes, components, etc., you
>have to repour the plane. Whereas a split plane doesn't have that problem;
>as long as the via or pad
Abdulrahman wrote
> The bottom line is that the photoplot people can panelize in seconds,
> literally. They do it all day, every day. If you must control the panel,
> then give them a dimiensioned drawing (which can be on a mech layer on
your
> original PCB file) and then tell them to step and rep
> Absolutely the way to go. A fab vendor is panalizing every board you do
> anyway, even if you
> only want separate boards delivered, they break them out of the panel they
> created.
> The fab house could not make any money if they did one ups on a 12x18
panel,
> or your
> boards would be pretty
it really isn't that simple, at least for us
we can almost never let the bd shop panelize because it just won't come
out the way we want
in the case of a repeated rectangular array of bds with nothing hanging
over the edges, sure maybe
assuming we are talking about a 'panel' that can ride thru t
i never really liked those guys, but i'm not sure why
something always rubbed me the wrong way
Dennis Saputelli
Mike Reagan wrote:
>
> > Absolutely the way to go. A fab vendor is panalizing every board you do
> > anyway, even if you
> > only want separate boards delivered, they break them out o
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From: Dennis Saputelli
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Sent: 15/12/2001 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Merging boards
it really isn't that simple, at least for us
we can almost never let the bd shop panelize because it just won't come
out the way we want
in the case of a repeated rect
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Subject: [PEDA] Merging boards
When I merged 2 boards to create a pallette, 2 of the internal split planes
of the 2nd board changed nets. Is there any way to prevent this, or is it a
bug?
Sean James
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Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 7:04 PM
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Protel 99SE is not well suited for the purpose of panelisin
.
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From: "Brad Velander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:12 PM
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> Gareth,
> you obviousl
I don't think so, at least for my purposes, based on a quick a dirty
look at it when i first got it
Dennis Saputelli
Bagotronix Tech Support wrote:
>
> Brad (and anyone else who wants to chime in):
>
> Does CAMtastic work OK when you panelize an array of the same PCB? I may
> want to try this
y, December 18, 2001 8:58 AM
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Brad (and anyone else who wants to chime in):
Does CAMtastic work OK when you panelize an array of the same PCB? I may
want to try this sometime soon.
I have used CAMtastic for basic Gerber manipulation (addin
> Does CAMtastic work OK when you panelize an array of the same PCB? I
> may want to try this sometime soon.
I do that quite often and find it good for the task.
I generally have two PCB files in Protel. One is the board proper
and the other is the empty Array with tooling holes, etc.
I Gerber
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Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 9:57 AM
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> Brad (and anyone else who wants to chime in):
>
> Does CAMtastic work OK when you panelize an array of the
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> Date:12/18/2001 11:55:33 AM Eastern Standard Time
> From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brad Velander)
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> Gareth,
> you obviously
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