Re: [psas-avionics] [PSAS] Flight data from today's PSAS adventures

2009-06-02 Thread Barton C Massey
Keep in mind that all the instruments we used for those velocity measurements have some interesting limitations at this point. The pressure altimeter is known not to work so well in the transsonic region. The z-axis IMU hasn't yet been calibrated terribly effectively. The GPS is quite inaccurate

Re: [psas-avionics] [PSAS] Flight data from today's PSAS adventures

2009-06-02 Thread Richard Johnson
Hi all, One slightly dispassionate observer out here thinks that transonic is feasible for this one, but probably not supersonic. mach 1 is 335 m/s measured at sea level at 59 deg. F. The speed goes down as as elevation, altitude, humidity and air temperatures increase. (Lower air density.)

Re: [psas-avionics] [PSAS] Flight data from today's PSAS adventures

2009-06-02 Thread Jeremy Booth
I guess my thought is that sound, at least as heard from our respective locations, isn't a good indicator. I had a good feel for the sound delay from the kids' rockets, and I heard the engine sound and then the two "booms". I think I have a pretty good feel for when in flight the sound occured, a

Re: [psas-avionics] [PSAS] Flight data from today's PSAS adventures

2009-06-02 Thread Barton C Massey
Given your experience, the youth of TM's software and hardware, and the prediction of supersonic flight by the simulator, I'm willing to believe we may well have been supersonic or at least transsonic on Saturday. However, it will be really hard to tell, I think. We might be able to cal some stuf

Re: [psas-avionics] [PSAS] Flight data from today's PSAS adventures

2009-06-02 Thread Glenn LeBrasseur
Well that's just it; I was at the road-station two miles away and I never heard the engine sound. All I heard were two cracks about ?15? seconds after launch. Would I have heard a chuff sound if I never heard the engine sound? Just curious. Glenn I wrote: That was the motor chuffing, we

Re: [psas-avionics] [PSAS] Flight data from today's PSAS adventures

2009-06-01 Thread Keith Packard
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 17:06 -0700, Andrew Greenberg wrote: > That was the motor chuffing, we think. Keith, can you give us the column > names and units for your gnumeric file? I'd like to post it as cvs. he colums in the spreadsheet are: A: time (seconds) B: height above ground (m from baro sens

Re: [psas-avionics] [PSAS] Flight data from today's PSAS adventures

2009-06-01 Thread I
That was the motor chuffing, we think. Yeah, I don't think it's possible to hear a sonic boom if you can already hear the engine (though the chuff sound was impressive). My understanding is that a sonic 'boom' comes from the fact that you hear no sound, then all of the sound at once wh

Re: [psas-avionics] [PSAS] Flight data from today's PSAS adventures

2009-06-01 Thread Andrew Greenberg
That was the motor chuffing, we think. Keith, can you give us the column names and units for your gnumeric file? I'd like to post it as cvs. Thanks, Andrew Glenn LeBrasseur wrote: > Is the speed measurement a little off? I am sure I heard a sonic boom. > In fact I thought I heard two cracks sep