Re: GUI questions

2007-10-02 Thread John Darrington
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 11:02:15PM -0700, Ben Pfaff wrote: Clearly that works. The bit about it that worries me is whether it will be obvious to a user that OK and Paste are insensitive *because* no variables have yet been selected. In the case where no variables at all exist,

Re: GUI questions

2007-10-02 Thread Ben Pfaff
John Darrington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 07:21:16AM -0700, Ben Pfaff wrote: > > > examples, procedures can't run without any data, so should we > > gray out the Analyze menu until there's data? > > > > I think not. Procedures can run wi

Re: GUI questions

2007-10-02 Thread Ben Pfaff
John Darrington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jason Stover writes: > > [sensible stuff] > [more sensible stuff] Sounds good. Let's make this our informal GUI design policy for the moment, until it needs changes. (Presuming you're OK with it, John--you're kind in the driver's seat on the GUI.) >

Re: GUI questions

2007-10-02 Thread John Darrington
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 06:00:55PM -0400, Jason Stover wrote: On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 10:10:29PM -0700, Ben Pfaff wrote: > I wonder what everyone thinks about designing a "good" GUI (at > least, one that we think is good) versus designing one that works > the same way. Do

Re: GUI questions

2007-10-02 Thread John Darrington
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 07:21:16AM -0700, Ben Pfaff wrote: > examples, procedures can't run without any data, so should we > gray out the Analyze menu until there's data? > > I think not. Procedures can run without data, although in most cases > they will give

Re: GUI questions

2007-10-02 Thread Jason Stover
On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 10:10:29PM -0700, Ben Pfaff wrote: > I wonder what everyone thinks about designing a "good" GUI (at > least, one that we think is good) versus designing one that works > the same way. Do you think that users will be confused by the > changes, or do you think that they will

Re: GUI questions

2007-10-02 Thread Ben Pfaff
John Darrington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 10:10:29PM -0700, Ben Pfaff wrote: > > The reason I left out Z-scores from my initial DESCRIPTIVES > dialog design was that I didn't think that they made any logical > sense there. It seems to be that they should

Re: GUI questions

2007-10-01 Thread John Darrington
I'll deal with the gui philosphy questions in a seperate thread, when I've got more time. On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 10:10:29PM -0700, Ben Pfaff wrote: The reason I left out Z-scores from my initial DESCRIPTIVES dialog design was that I didn't think that they made any logical sense th

GUI questions

2007-10-01 Thread Ben Pfaff
My attempt at a DESCRIPTIVES dialog box has prompted some questions. The first one is well posed by jmd, who writes in comment #1 on patch #6219: > Putting all the options in a treeview is a good idea. However > it departs from the user interface of the Chicargo company's > software. I've been te