RE: A thanks to Slau and others; Pro tools Levels.

2014-05-10 Thread Poppa Bear
Ok Chuck, those are some hard words to crack in light of the current way of thinking, but I may start reevaluating some of this information in order to become better informed about all of it. Thanks for sharing From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of

RE: A thanks to Slau and others

2014-05-09 Thread Poppa Bear
Thanks for sharing this Chuck, I am a bit on the fence about this still. I do understand that many plugs such as the waves are calibrated for about minus 18 DB or so, but at the same time there are controls to adjust many aspects of levels as well as the way plugs respond to signals and such. I

Re: A thanks to Slau and others; Pro tools Levels.

2014-05-09 Thread CHUCK REICHEL
Hi Poppa, What you noticed from that vocal session is where I basically keep my levels, for the last 13 years using PT. I've gotten very good results keeping it up there. I will admit you half to be very diligent while running levels up there! Heres some further clarification of the level

Re: A thanks to Slau and others

2014-05-08 Thread Poppa Bear
I missed the talk, but in genral I record vocals and instruments at about minus 9 to minus 12DB. I do still get projects to mix from clients where vocals are pushed to 0DB and the instrument track is often clipping so your not alone in your experience. - Original Message - From:

Re: A thanks to Slau and others

2014-05-08 Thread Ricky Prevatte
That is certainly normal. Because we always hear about mixed down. Let me tell you brother it is easier to mix up then to mix down any day thank God for digital. When we hear about mixed down that is probably why most people have their levels that hot. I found that out by accident with Sonar

Re: A thanks to Slau and others

2014-05-08 Thread Chris Smart
Yep, it's a very common mistake, especially if you first started doing this when most things were 16-bit, and recording hot was a lot more important. And also don't forget that most people are used to hearing commercial recordings with all the dynamics removed, and everything boosted as loud

Re: A thanks to Slau and others

2014-05-08 Thread CHUCK REICHEL
Hi Poppa, Just a couple of clarifications for you from my life time Friend tom Graefe who was on the Sony Oxford console design teem. :) Heres a couple of quick pointers to remember when tracking. First 24 bit is the resolution of the A/D converter. Yes theoretically the Dynamic range of 24

Re: A thanks to Slau and others

2014-05-08 Thread Slau Halatyn
For what it's worth to all, I'll say this once and I won't comment again because, frankly, this is not a general recording forum, per se. I'm not going to dissuade anyone from commenting further but I personally won't participate because it's a waste of time. What Chuck is suggesting is pure

Re: A thanks to Slau and others

2014-05-08 Thread Chris Smart
People get confused by the terminology involved. Nominal does not mean average level. Neither, for that matter, does crest factor mean average. Please check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nominal_level Also, consult various plug-in manufacturers to see what level they recommend for best