That'd be neat, but clearwire coverage is still too spotty for it to be
practical. For example, I live in Brooklyn (in the SE), and there's no
coverage down here, even though there's a Clearwire reseller nearby on
Powell.
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Gary wrote:
> PTP meeting notes said:
>
PTP meeting notes said:
> He also says they have an Android based phone coming this year.
I guess they're putting that half a billion from Google to good use. They
have hinted at this before... does that mean they'll be selling unlimited
minutes mobile VoIP service without credit checks, service a
Tonight at the weekly, a Clear rep assured us that hosting a node via
Clear's Portland service would be allowed, and that they were actually
encouraging businesses to use it to run hotspots.
Read a little more here: http://wiki.personaltelco.net/WeeklyMeeting20090211
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Michael Weinberg
Preside
https://www.clear.com/company/legal/wifi.htm
Wi-Fi Terms and Conditions
Effective April 20, 2005, Clear has revised its Wi-Fi Terms and
Conditions and other related provisions for use of Clear's services.
You are strongly encouraged to read the entire agreement and to check
this webpage periodic
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Subject: [ptp-general] Re: Clear(wire) as backhaul, is it allowed?
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Gary wrote:
>
> "You also agree that Clearwire retains the right, in its sole and
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Russell Senior
wrote:
>
>> "Gary" == Gary writes:
>
> Gary> I disagree -- most common ISP/NSP usage policy tenets appear in
> Gary> their TOS and the section I quoted specifically say that their
> Gary> TOS are also their AUP. I used to work for a tier one n
> "Gary" == Gary writes:
Gary> I disagree -- most common ISP/NSP usage policy tenets appear in
Gary> their TOS and the section I quoted specifically say that their
Gary> TOS are also their AUP. I used to work for a tier one network
Gary> provider and though that was over 10 years ago now, A
Michael Weinberg wrote:
> Just because Clearwire reserves the right to manage
> bandwidth, it doesn't mean that they have no other expectation or
> requirements for what their customers must or must not do. I stand by
> my position that something is missing.
"Clearwire may suspend or discontinue
Gary wrote:
> "You acknowledge that speed and bandwidth available to each computer or
> device connected to the network may vary for reasons including, but not
> limited to the number of users, computers or devices connected to the
> network, the amount of data being transferred over the network,
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Gary wrote:
>
> "You also agree that Clearwire retains the right, in its sole and
> absolute discretion, to employ network management activities including,
> but not limited to (i) reducing, limiting, or otherwise restricting
> uplink and downlink speeds and trans
"You also agree that Clearwire retains the right, in its sole and
absolute discretion, to employ network management activities including,
but not limited to (i) reducing, limiting, or otherwise restricting
uplink and downlink speeds and transfer rates, (ii) reducing or limiting
peer-to-peer sessio
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Gary wrote:
>
> Michael Weinberg wrote:
>> as it appears to lack
>> much of the usage specifics that typically is in an AUP, I'm inclined
>> toward the former reading.
>>
>
> I disagree -- most common ISP/NSP usage policy tenets appear in their
> TOS and the secti
Michael Weinberg wrote:
> as it appears to lack
> much of the usage specifics that typically is in an AUP, I'm inclined
> toward the former reading.
>
I disagree -- most common ISP/NSP usage policy tenets appear in their
TOS and the section I quoted specifically say that their TOS are also
the
IANAL, but I read that to mean that the Terms of Service also require
compliance with the AUP, a separate document. I suppose it could mean
that the Terms of Service include the AUP, but as it appears to lack
much of the usage specifics that typically is in an AUP, I'm inclined
toward the former r
"13. Acceptable Use Policy. The Acceptable Use Policy is incorporated
into these Terms of Service as though they are a part of it. Clearwire
reserves the right to immediately restrict, limit, suspend or terminate
your Service or terminate this Agreement for any violation of the
Acceptable Use Poli
That's a question I've been trying to get answered, too. I'll ask CEO
Ben Wolf, tomorrow if there's some policy. The answer I got from the
Broadway storefront (near Lloyd Center), is that it's okay -- but
who'd want to leave their connection "open"?
But any number of mobile WiFi routers will soon
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