Re: differentFrom?

2009-11-14 Thread Richard Cyganiak
On 14 Nov 2009, at 12:44, Hugh Glaser wrote: Anyone who can differentiate the two Lajos Hanzos in Mobile comms (both of whom have been in the same group at Southampton) deserves a medal, and to have the fruits of their labours recorded for posterity. Mind you, for differentFrom to have any v

Re: differentFrom?

2009-11-14 Thread Richard Light
In message <4afebc7c.3060...@webr3.org>, Nathan writes Yeah, certainly worth investigating - an owl:differentFrom is also a link after all. By definition it's likely to go to data that you don't actually want, but probably the best way of dealing with that is figure out what's needed to get it

Re: differentFrom?

2009-11-14 Thread Tom Scott
On 14 Nov 2009, at 12:31, Simon Reinhardt wrote: > Richard Light wrote: >> Hugh Glaser's sameAs.org site [1] provides a facility for finding >> multiple URIs for the same concept. How about a site which does >> the opposite: indicates where URIs refer to _different_ concepts? >> Obviously, this

Second Call For Papers: JWS special issue on SemanticSearch

2009-11-14 Thread Tran Thanh
--- Apologies if you receive multiple copies of this message --- Second call for papers for a JWS special issue on Semantic Search Yong Yu and Rudi Studer are editing a special issue of the Journal of We

Re: Best practices: representing homonym relationships in SKOS

2009-11-14 Thread Simon Spero
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Thomas Bandholtz < thomas.bandho...@innoq.com> wrote: > One example: > "bass [fish]" and "bass [music]", which are about "bass" as a homograph > (not a homophone). > > You see I used some kind of "qualifier" to distinguish the two meanings. > This is a common pract

Re: Best practices: representing homonym relationships in SKOS

2009-11-14 Thread Bradley Allen
Thomas and Karl- Thanks for the leads; this gives us something to run with. To Karl's point, our principal concern is with homographs. Even though the approach outlined introduces classes to deal with labels it is perhaps the only principled way to do this type of thing, and at least we won't have

Re: Best practices: representing homonym relationships in SKOS

2009-11-14 Thread Thomas Bandholtz
Hi Bradley, thanks a lot for raising this question, as currently we have discussions about different approaches of Label management in SKOS(XL), and the homograph issue has been somehow neglected so far. Karl has mentioned the difference between homographs and homophones already. I would say: hom

Re: differentFrom?

2009-11-14 Thread Nathan
Danny Ayers wrote: > 2009/11/14 Simon Reinhardt : > >> I definitely think it's useful for Linked Data purposes, just like >> owl:sameAs, IFPs and everything that Allemand and Hendler describe as >> RDFS-Plus (although they don't include owl:differentFrom in that). > > Yeah, certainly worth invest

Re: differentFrom?

2009-11-14 Thread Danny Ayers
2009/11/14 Simon Reinhardt : > I definitely think it's useful for Linked Data purposes, just like > owl:sameAs, IFPs and everything that Allemand and Hendler describe as > RDFS-Plus (although they don't include owl:differentFrom in that). Yeah, certainly worth investigating - an owl:differentFrom

Re: differentFrom?

2009-11-14 Thread Simon Reinhardt
Richard Light wrote: Hugh Glaser's sameAs.org site [1] provides a facility for finding multiple URIs for the same concept. How about a site which does the opposite: indicates where URIs refer to _different_ concepts? Obviously, this is only helpful where you might be tempted to assume that the

Re: differentFrom?

2009-11-14 Thread Hugh Glaser
Thanks Richard, very thoughtful. One day there might be: http://differentfrom.org/ (John Goodwin suggested the site and redirect!) More seriously. Yes, differentFrom is really good information. There is an owl:differentFrom (and owl:AllDifferent), but it is not used much. We used to have the faci

Re: Best practices: representing homonym relationships in SKOS

2009-11-14 Thread Karl Dubost
Le 12 nov. 2009 à 19:55, Bradley Allen a écrit : is there any best practice or, failing that, good ideas for representing homonymy in SKOS? homophone: same sound, different meaning or homograph: same graph, different meaning Maybe a better list is public-swd...@w3.org The use case has

differentFrom?

2009-11-14 Thread Richard Light
Hi, Following on from the excellent Open Data and the Semantic Web meeting at the London Knowledge Labs yesterday (thank you, Open Knowledge Foundation), a thought occurs to me. I don't imagine it's a new one, but I would be interested to know what has been done in this direction. Hugh Gla