Re: [ontolog-forum] Model Semantics, Representation Syntax, and Systems Integration

2010-11-11 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 11/11/10 5:53 PM, John F. Sowa wrote: Kingley, Alan, Doug, Chris, et al., John, Thanks! Just copying in LOD mailing list since I made a cc. mistake when starting this thread :-) KI: ... maybe we could use this thread to arrive at obvious common ground re. data integration and the dim

Re: Google Refine 2.0

2010-11-11 Thread David Huynh
On 11/10/10 4:21 PM, David Huynh wrote: Hi all, We've just released Google Refine 2.0, formerly called Freebase Gridworks, and since Gridworks has previously been used to generate linked data, I thought you might be interested in the 2.0 release: http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2010/1

Google Refine 2.0

2010-11-11 Thread David Huynh
We've just released Google Refine 2.0, formerly called Freebase Gridworks, and since Gridworks has previously been used to generate linked data, I thought you might be interested in the 2.0 release: http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2010/11/announcing-google-refine-20-power-tool.html Best,

Re: [ontolog-forum] Model Semantics, Representation Syntax, and Systems Integration

2010-11-11 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 11/10/10 1:30 PM, Christopher Menzel wrote: On Nov 10, 2010, at 12:16 PM, Alan Ruttenberg wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Kingsley Idehen wrote: Alan / John: maybe we could use this thread to arrive at obvious common ground re. data integration and the diminishing need for a synt

Re: RDB to RDF & ontology terms reuse

2010-11-11 Thread Ted Thibodeau Jr
*** On Nov 5, 2010, at 7:54 PM, Christian Rivas wrote: >> > you are absolutely right but what happen if I need to reuse >> > a ontology term that belong to a different Domain >> > as I exemplify before? >> > >> > Should I map Actor with foaf:Person and vcard:VCard and >> > dbpedia:Actor classes

Re: Google Refine 2.0

2010-11-11 Thread dfhuynh
Thanks, John! I'm glad you're finding my work useful in this domain! I try my best to keep my work as generic, open, and extensible as possible. David Quoting "John Sheridan" : David, Thank you for this. Google Refine is a really important tool for the Linked Data work we are doing on dat

Is disambiguation really necessary? (was Is 303 really necessary?)

2010-11-11 Thread Jason Borro
/agree with Tore. I know it's an old debate, but it's payback time for flooding my inbox for the last week. Can someone please give me a good use case for pedantically disambiguating an IR and NIR? This week I've seen the following samples: "/toucan.rdf is wrong". Why are you declaring a d

Re: Role of URI and HTTP in Linked Data

2010-11-11 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 11/11/10 2:01 PM, Pat Hayes wrote: On Nov 11, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 11/11/10 9:00 AM, David Booth wrote: On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 07:23 +0100, Jiří Procházka wrote: [ . . . ] I think it is flawed trying to enforce "URI == 1 thing" Exactly right. The "URI == 1 thing" no

Re: Google Refine 2.0

2010-11-11 Thread John Sheridan
On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 13:19 -0500, dfhu...@csail.mit.edu wrote: > Google Refine has an extension architecture that Fadi Maali and > Richard Cyganiak have used to add RDF functionalities > > http://lab.linkeddata.deri.ie/2010/dcat/ > I have played with these a bit too. Again, very important and

Re: Google Refine 2.0

2010-11-11 Thread John Sheridan
David, Thank you for this. Google Refine is a really important tool for the Linked Data work we are doing on data.gov.uk and becoming ever more important. Version 2.0 is looking good. I greatly value the work you are doing to improve this vital tool, for the web of data. Thanks again! John. On

Re: Role of URI and HTTP in Linked Data

2010-11-11 Thread Pat Hayes
On Nov 11, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kingsley Idehen wrote: > On 11/11/10 9:00 AM, David Booth wrote: >> On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 07:23 +0100, Jiří Procházka wrote: >> [ . . . ] >>> I think it is flawed trying to enforce "URI == 1 thing" >> Exactly right. The "URI == 1 thing" notion is myth #1 in "Resource

Re: Role of URI and HTTP in Linked Data

2010-11-11 Thread Pat Hayes
On Nov 11, 2010, at 8:00 AM, David Booth wrote: > On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 07:23 +0100, Jiří Procházka wrote: > [ . . . ] >> I think it is flawed trying to enforce "URI == 1 thing" > > Exactly right. The "URI == 1 thing" notion is myth #1 in "Resource > Identity and Semantic Extensions: Making Se

Re: Google Refine 2.0

2010-11-11 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 11/11/10 1:19 PM, dfhu...@csail.mit.edu wrote: Google Refine has an extension architecture that Fadi Maali and Richard Cyganiak have used to add RDF functionalities Yes, I am aware of that. So safe to assume that this extension will inherit the new functionality associated with this update et

Re: Google Refine 2.0

2010-11-11 Thread dfhuynh
Google Refine has an extension architecture that Fadi Maali and Richard Cyganiak have used to add RDF functionalities http://lab.linkeddata.deri.ie/2010/dcat/ RDF stuff is best left to RDF experts :) But really, Kingsley, please spend some time watching those screencasts. There are one or t

Re: What is a URL? And What is a URI

2010-11-11 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 11/11/10 12:52 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote: All, Type fixes As the conversation about HTTP responses evolves, I am inclined to believe that most still believe that: 1. URL is equivalent to a URI 2. URI is a fancier term for URI 3. URI is equivalent to URL. 1. URL is equivalent to a URI

What is a URL? And What is a URI

2010-11-11 Thread Kingsley Idehen
All, As the conversation about HTTP responses evolves, I am inclined to believe that most still believe that: 1. URL is equivalent to a URI 2. URI is a fancier term for URI 3. URI is equivalent to URL. I think my opinion on this matter is clear, but I am very interested in the views of anyon

Re: Rough draft poem: Document what art thou?

2010-11-11 Thread Nathan
Didn't they make a film called "The Descriptor!" out of that? Kingsley Idehen wrote: I am the Data Container, Disseminator, and Canvas. I came to be when the cognitive skills of mankind deemed oral history inadequate. I am transcendent, I take many forms, but my core purpose is constant - Con

Rough draft poem: Document what art thou?

2010-11-11 Thread Kingsley Idehen
I am the Data Container, Disseminator, and Canvas. I came to be when the cognitive skills of mankind deemed oral history inadequate. I am transcendent, I take many forms, but my core purpose is constant - Container, Disseminator, and Canvas. I am dexterous, I can be blank, partitioned horizonta

Re: Role of URI and HTTP in Linked Data

2010-11-11 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 11/11/10 11:34 AM, Nathan wrote: Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 11/11/10 10:00 AM, Nathan wrote: Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 11/11/10 9:00 AM, David Booth wrote: On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 07:23 +0100, Jiří Procházka wrote: [ . . . ] I think it is flawed trying to enforce "URI == 1 thing" Exactly ri

Re: Role of URI and HTTP in Linked Data

2010-11-11 Thread Nathan
Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 11/11/10 10:00 AM, Nathan wrote: Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 11/11/10 9:00 AM, David Booth wrote: On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 07:23 +0100, Jiří Procházka wrote: [ . . . ] I think it is flawed trying to enforce "URI == 1 thing" Exactly right. The "URI == 1 thing" notion is

Re: Google Refine 2.0

2010-11-11 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 11/11/10 11:04 AM, David Huynh wrote: [This didn't go through the first time.] On Nov/10/10 4:21 pm, David Huynh wrote: Hi all, We've just released Google Refine 2.0, formerly called Freebase Gridworks, and since Gridworks has previously been used to generate linked data, I thought you

Re: Google Refine 2.0

2010-11-11 Thread David Huynh
[This didn't go through the first time.] On Nov/10/10 4:21 pm, David Huynh wrote: Hi all, We've just released Google Refine 2.0, formerly called Freebase Gridworks, and since Gridworks has previously been used to generate linked data, I thought you might be interested in the 2.0 release:

Re: Role of URI and HTTP in Linked Data

2010-11-11 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 11/11/10 10:00 AM, Nathan wrote: Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 11/11/10 9:00 AM, David Booth wrote: On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 07:23 +0100, Jiří Procházka wrote: [ . . . ] I think it is flawed trying to enforce "URI == 1 thing" Exactly right. The "URI == 1 thing" notion is myth #1 in "Resource Ide

Re: Role of URI and HTTP in Linked Data

2010-11-11 Thread Robert Sanderson
I agree with Kingsley, an "identifier" that "identifies" more than one thing is a common name, not an identifier. To say that a URI can identify multiple things is as meaningless as saying that the string "Rob" identifies me. That is all. Carry on. Rob Sanderson On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:42 AM,

Re: A(nother) Guide to Publishing Linked Data Without Redirects

2010-11-11 Thread David Wood
On Nov 11, 2010, at 10:05, Nathan wrote: > reality distortion is needed. Heh. +1. Regards, Dave

Re: A(nother) Guide to Publishing Linked Data Without Redirects

2010-11-11 Thread Nathan
Harry Halpin wrote: The question is how to build Linked Data on top of *only* HTTP 200 - the case where the data publisher either cannot alter their server set-up (.htaccess) files or does not care to. (1) use fragments (2) if using slashes, admit "I was wrong" and migrate data (REAL uris do c

Re: Role of URI and HTTP in Linked Data

2010-11-11 Thread Nathan
Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 11/11/10 9:00 AM, David Booth wrote: On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 07:23 +0100, Jiří Procházka wrote: [ . . . ] I think it is flawed trying to enforce "URI == 1 thing" Exactly right. The "URI == 1 thing" notion is myth #1 in "Resource Identity and Semantic Extensions: Making

Re: Role of URI and HTTP in Linked Data

2010-11-11 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 11/11/10 9:00 AM, David Booth wrote: On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 07:23 +0100, Jiří Procházka wrote: [ . . . ] I think it is flawed trying to enforce "URI == 1 thing" Exactly right. The "URI == 1 thing" notion is myth #1 in "Resource Identity and Semantic Extensions: Making Sense of Ambiguity": ht

Re: Role of URI and HTTP in Linked Data

2010-11-11 Thread Nathan
David Booth wrote: On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 07:23 +0100, Jiří Procházka wrote: [ . . . ] I think it is flawed trying to enforce "URI == 1 thing" Exactly right. The "URI == 1 thing" notion is myth #1 in "Resource Identity and Semantic Extensions: Making Sense of Ambiguity": http://dbooth.org/2010

Re: Role of URI and HTTP in Linked Data

2010-11-11 Thread David Booth
On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 07:23 +0100, Jiří Procházka wrote: [ . . . ] > I think it is flawed trying to enforce "URI == 1 thing" Exactly right. The "URI == 1 thing" notion is myth #1 in "Resource Identity and Semantic Extensions: Making Sense of Ambiguity": http://dbooth.org/2010/ambiguity/paper.htm

Re: A(nother) Guide to Publishing Linked Data Without Redirects

2010-11-11 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 11/11/10 8:07 AM, David Wood wrote: On Nov 11, 2010, at 07:44, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 11/11/10 4:54 AM, Richard Light wrote: In message , Harry Halpin writes The question is how to build Linked Data on top of *only* HTTP 200 - the case where the data publisher either cannot alter th

Re: A(nother) Guide to Publishing Linked Data Without Redirects

2010-11-11 Thread David Wood
On Nov 11, 2010, at 07:44, Kingsley Idehen wrote: > On 11/11/10 4:54 AM, Richard Light wrote: >> >> In message , >> Harry Halpin writes >>> >>> The question is how to build Linked Data on top of *only* HTTP 200 - >>> the case where the data publisher either cannot alter their server >>> se

Re: A(nother) Guide to Publishing Linked Data Without Redirects

2010-11-11 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 11/11/10 4:54 AM, Richard Light wrote: In message , Harry Halpin writes The question is how to build Linked Data on top of *only* HTTP 200 - the case where the data publisher either cannot alter their server set-up (.htaccess) files or does not care to. Might it help to look at this prob

Re: A(nother) Guide to Publishing Linked Data Without Redirects

2010-11-11 Thread Richard Light
In message , Harry Halpin writes The question is how to build Linked Data on top of *only* HTTP 200 - the case where the data publisher either cannot alter their server set-up (.htaccess) files or does not care to. Might it help to look at this problem from the other end of the telescope? S

SAMT 2010 - CALL FOR PARTICIPATION

2010-11-11 Thread Susanne Thierfelder
*** * SAMT 2010 - CALL FOR PARTICIPATION* *5th International Conference on * *Semantic And digital Media Technologies * *Saarbrücken, Germany, 1-3 Decembe