Re: Metadata about single triples

2012-02-22 Thread Gannon Dick
re: Languages "urn:lang:xxx: or urn:lang:xx:" I'm not sure what the official UN Languages are.  The US Library of Congress is the maintainer of ISO 639 (1- 2alpha,2- 3 alpha,5- 3 alpha groups)).  They have an ID server which responds to URI's made from the Standard and the code.  The ISO 639-5

Re: Metadata about single triples

2012-02-22 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 2/22/12 1:58 PM, Barry Norton wrote: On 22/02/2012 18:18, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 2/22/12 12:30 PM, Barry Norton wrote: On 22/02/2012 17:21, Bob Ferris wrote: [...] Named Graphs unnecessary fragment complex descriptions into (very) small piece due to their provenance descriptions*. So whe

Re: Metadata about single triples

2012-02-22 Thread Barry Norton
On 22/02/2012 18:18, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 2/22/12 12:30 PM, Barry Norton wrote: On 22/02/2012 17:21, Bob Ferris wrote: [...] Named Graphs unnecessary fragment complex descriptions into (very) small piece due to their provenance descriptions*. So when you would like to query this complex d

Re: Metadata about single triples

2012-02-22 Thread David Booth
Carsten, On Wed, 2012-02-22 at 12:02 +0100, Carsten Keßler wrote: [ . . . ] > The aspect we are currently working on is a metadata section that will > include classes and properties to state who has reported a certain > piece of information, when it was reported, whether it was approved > (and at

Re: Metadata about single triples

2012-02-22 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 2/22/12 12:30 PM, Barry Norton wrote: On 22/02/2012 17:21, Bob Ferris wrote: [...] Named Graphs unnecessary fragment complex descriptions into (very) small piece due to their provenance descriptions*. So when you would like to query this complex description at once you may have to include m

Re: How do OBO ontologies work on the LOD?

2012-02-22 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 2/22/12 9:15 AM, Alan Ruttenberg wrote: On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 2:55 AM, Peter DeVries > wrote: Hi Alan, Here is an example from the Hymenoptera Anatomy Ontology http://obofoundry.org/cgi-bin/detail.cgi?id=hymenoptera_anatomy Example via my

Re: Metadata about single triples

2012-02-22 Thread Barry Norton
On 22/02/2012 17:21, Bob Ferris wrote: [...] Named Graphs unnecessary fragment complex descriptions into (very) small piece due to their provenance descriptions*. So when you would like to query this complex description at once you may have to include many Named Graphs. This makes the SPARQL qu

Re: Metadata about single triples

2012-02-22 Thread Bob Ferris
Hi Carsten, On 2/22/2012 5:51 PM, Carsten Keßler wrote: Hi Bob, At a first glance, your ontology looks very interesting and well designed. thanks, we are doing our best ;) So there might be the (rather old) need for statement identifiers, i.e., a URI (or maybe also a bnode) for identifying

Re: Metadata about single triples

2012-02-22 Thread Carsten Keßler
Hi Gannon, > I agree with the comments below.  I think what Bob is suggesting is that you > include a non-ontology Core (DCMI for example). I am not sure whether I get that correctly, but it is pretty clear to use that we need something like this. We are already using some of the DCMI properties

Re: Metadata about single triples

2012-02-22 Thread Carsten Keßler
Hi Bob, > At a first glance, your ontology looks very interesting and well designed. thanks, we are doing our best ;) > So there might be the (rather old) need for > statement identifiers, i.e., a URI (or maybe also a bnode) for identifying a >  single triple and to be able to describe external

Re: Metadata about single triples

2012-02-22 Thread Gannon Dick
Hi Carsten, I agree with the comments below.  I think what Bob is suggesting is that you include a non-ontology Core (DCMI for example). Three critical classes are Language, Jurisdiction and (not included in DCMI) Currency (or portable value).  That would be ISO 639-2, ISO 3166 and ISO 4217. 

Re: How do OBO ontologies work on the LOD?

2012-02-22 Thread Peter DeVries
Hi Alan, > *We use OWL and the Virtuoso endpoint you are using doesn't understand it. * Isn't it more accurate to say that OBO is not the same as the OWL standards? i.e. *OBO does not equal OWL.* - Pete On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Alan Ruttenberg wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 2:55

Re: How do OBO ontologies work on the LOD?

2012-02-22 Thread Alan Ruttenberg
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 2:55 AM, Peter DeVries wrote: > Hi Alan, > > Here is an example from the Hymenoptera Anatomy Ontology > > http://obofoundry.org/cgi-bin/detail.cgi?id=hymenoptera_anatomy > > Example via my endpoint > > http://lsd.taxonconcept.org/describe/?url=http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo

Re: Metadata about single triples

2012-02-22 Thread Bob Ferris
Hi Carsten, On 2/22/2012 12:02 PM, Carsten Keßler wrote: Dear LODers, we are currently working on a project for the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) in Geneva to develop a Humanitarian Exchange Language (HXL). Some information about the project is availa

Re: How do OBO ontologies work on the LOD?

2012-02-22 Thread Bernard Vatant
Hi all I've been lurking to this conversation for a while, and since Kerstin has put my name on the table, I thought I could just drop in. Seems to me that what Peter tries to achieve regarding linking to OBO ontologies is a real challenge. The logic (please read : "logic" in a loose sense here,

Metadata about single triples

2012-02-22 Thread Carsten Keßler
Dear LODers, we are currently working on a project for the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) in Geneva to develop a Humanitarian Exchange Language (HXL). Some information about the project is available at https://sites.google.com/site/hxlproject/. One of th