On 07/10/2014 14:33, "Gray, Alasdair" wrote:
>On 3 Oct 2014 16:06, Phillip Lord wrote:
>>
>> Eric Prud'hommeaux writes:
>>
>> > Let's work through the requirements and a plausible migration plan.
>>We need:
>> >
>> > 1 persistent storage: it's hard to beat books for a feeling of
>>persistence
On 23/07/2014 21:49, "Kingsley Idehen" wrote:
>On 7/23/14 3:40 PM, Michael Smethurst wrote:
>> Hi Kingsley
>>
>> Very definitely starting to feel like deja vu...
>>
>> On 23/07/2014 20:18, "Kingsley Idehen" wrote:
>>
>>> >
Hi Kingsley
Very definitely starting to feel like deja vu...
On 23/07/2014 20:18, "Kingsley Idehen" wrote:
>On 7/23/14 2:05 PM, Michael Smethurst wrote:
>> For internal usage it's all probably fine. But I still think it's a
>> pattern that shouldn't b
Interestingly enough I just checked a random shortened link off Twitter
>and it went through no less than 5 HTTP 301/302 redirects (500 ms in
>total) before getting the HTML.
Yeah, it's a shambles init :-/
>
>Taking that into consideration a single 303 is not too bad!
In comparison t
Oops, dropped laptop :-/
Continues
On 23/07/2014 14:50, "Michael Smethurst"
wrote:
>Hi Bill
>
>Bit of a difficult question to answer because the reality is probably
>still quite disjointed. Various parts of bbc.co.uk:
>- serve linked data
>- store data as rdf (i
;d be interested to know what you have found most
>efficient/convenient at the BBC - essentially dealing with the fact that
>the server doesn't know about what comes after the #
>
>
>Thanks
>
>Bill
>
>On 23 Jul 2014, at 13:52, Michael Smethurst
>wrote:
>
>
Hello
(Pretty sure I've made this comment before so please forgive any signs of
premature senility)
I think this may be an unfortunate side effect of the conflation of the
303 ("I can't send that") pattern with the content negotiation ("what
flavour would you like") pattern
Lots of linked data a
On 30/03/2012 16:15, "Tom Heath" wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> On 27 March 2012 16:17, Michael Smethurst wrote:
>>
>> On 26/03/2012 17:13, "Tom Heath" wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jeni,
>>>
>>> On 26 March 2012 16:47, Jeni Tenni
On 27/03/2012 18:12, "Kingsley Idehen" wrote:
> On 3/27/12 12:35 PM, Michael Smethurst wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 27/03/2012 16:53, "Kingsley Idehen" wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/27/12 11:17 AM, Michael Smethurst wrote:
>>>> No sane publis
On 27/03/2012 16:53, "Kingsley Idehen" wrote:
> On 3/27/12 11:17 AM, Michael Smethurst wrote:
>> No sane publisher trying to handle a decent amount of traffic is gonna
>> follow the dbpedia pattern of doing it in one step (conneg to 303) and
>> picking up 2 ser
On 26/03/2012 17:13, "Tom Heath" wrote:
> Hi Jeni,
>
> On 26 March 2012 16:47, Jeni Tennison wrote:
>> Tom,
>>
>> On 26 Mar 2012, at 16:05, Tom Heath wrote:
>>> On 23 March 2012 15:35, Steve Harris wrote:
I'm sure many people are just deeply bored of this discussion.
>>>
>>> No offen
Yes, like I say, I think you agreed
Nothing to be ashamed of :--Z
On 20/10/2011 12:21, "Kingsley Idehen" wrote:
>On 10/20/11 2:38 AM, Michael Smethurst wrote:
>>RE: Explaining the benefits of http-range14 (was Re: [HTTP-range-14]
>> Hyperthing: Semantic We
On 20/10/2011 00:35, "Hugh Glaser" wrote:
>
> On 18 Oct 2011, at 14:49, Michael Smethurst wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 18/10/2011 11:30, "Hugh Glaser" wrote:
>>
>
>>> So can I infer from this?:
>>> In a worl
On 20/10/2011 01:18, "Nathan" wrote:
> Dave Reynolds wrote:
>> The problem, as I see it, is that developers start from the NIR but then
>> use web browsers to find their way round the data and then cut paste the
>> browser locations they find, thus ending up with IRs where they should
>> have
Hello!
Don't want to sound hopelessly naive but for one second (until the nomenclature
wars reignited) I did see a small chink of agreement there.
Paraphrasing I think Leigh was saying the resource / representation split was
already quite an abstraction and enough for most people in most circum
On 18/10/2011 11:30, "Hugh Glaser" wrote:
> Hi.
> On 18 Oct 2011, at 10:57, Michael Smethurst wrote:
>
>> Hi Bernard
>>
>> Glad to hear I¹m finally making sense to someone... :-/
> I think I might be still with you ;-)
> And finding the discuss
esentations (which is)
see mails passim :-)
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To: Michael Smethurst
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Subject: Re: Address Bar URI
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Michael Smethurst
I don't seem to be doing a such good job at lurking but I'd thought the current
argument against fragment ids was you always get a 200 (so long as the
information resource they hang off exists). So:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006m86d#teddybearsandtrainsets
returns a 200 but that programme
On 18/10/2011 12:26, "Dave Reynolds" wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> On Tue, 2011-10-18 at 10:57 +0100, Michael Smethurst wrote:
>
>> All of the problems mentioned in this thread could be solved with the
>> addition of a *generic* information resource URI that
On 18/10/2011 11:30, "Hugh Glaser" wrote:
> Hi.
> On 18 Oct 2011, at 10:57, Michael Smethurst wrote:
>
>> Hi Bernard
>>
>> Glad to hear I¹m finally making sense to someone... :-/
> I think I might be still with you ;-)
> And finding the discuss
7;s my IR
> proxy to 1.
>
> The conneg for 1 is a systematic 303 to 2, whatever the query.
> The conneg for 2 indirects to the desired type of representation.
>
> Using 2 in Web dialogue avoids confusion : the URI in the browser is not
> misleading. You've asked for an IR, here
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On 10/17/11 1:48 AM, Michael Smethurst wrote:
>
> Hi Kingsley
>
> I've heard you make this argument several times in the past. But I
> do
guage
My 2p
Michael
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Subject: Re: Address Bar URI
On 10/16/11 8:50 AM, Michael Smethurst wrote:
>
> Hi Hugh
>
> Apologies for top post; blame we
7;d argue it's a
very small minority of users who would understand the distinction / care and
the ones that do will all be working with the rdf(a) anyway
And possibly more of a blog post than an email. Sorry :-)
Michael
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From: Hugh Glaser [mailto:h...@
Have to say from a pragmatic point of view that using replaceState to switch
between IR and NIR (or whatever we're supposed to call them) URIs feels like
bad advice for most developers
Users in older browsers are going to see (and copy and paste) one set of URIs
whilst users of more modern brow
On 07/10/2010 15:45, "Georgi Kobilarov" wrote:
> Hi Michael,
Hiya
>
> Insofar PUBLINK rather clears the way for commercial linked data
> service providers.
>>
>> By doing what? Which bits does publink do and which bits are left to the
>> commercial sector?
>>
>> From the lines abo
On 07/10/2010 11:58, "Hugh Glaser" wrote:
> Clearly this is an exciting thing to be doing, but I couldn't let Sören's
> comments go :-)
>
> On 07/10/2010 08:57, "Dave Reynolds" wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 01:38 +0200, Sören Auer wrote:
>>> On 07.10.2010 1:13, Georgi Kobilarov wrote:
>
Hi John
Thanks for the tips. Seems our Chrome versions aren't quite the same. I'm on
MacOS (5.0.375.70) and...
On 23/06/2010 19:48, "John Erickson" wrote:
> Here's how you specific your language preferences in Chrome:
>
> * In the "Customize" menu (the wrench) select "Options"
I have no "opt
Hello
Realise this is slightly off topic for this list but since you people know
the most about content negotiation of the people I know I thought I'd try
here first. So...
...does anyone know of any real world sites that content negotiate on
language accept headers? Yves has pointed out that Goo
Hello
Just chipping in from a publisher's perspective. The /data and /page thing on
DBpedia always confused me a little. It seemed to make the assumption that
there was only one page (desktop html) and only one data view (RDF).
On bbc /programmes we have 2 pages (desktop html using
http://www.
Hi Jun/all
Just noticed the line on:
http://esw.w3.org/topic/TaskForces/CommunityProjects/LinkingOpenData/DataSets/Statistics
saying:
BBC Later + TOTP (link not responding - 2009-04-01)
That's my bad. The site's been down since we forgot to pay our ec2 bills :-/
Having said that the data has
>> http://ontologi.es/rail/stations/gb/MAN.rdf
>>
>> and wondering if there's some confusion between location and
>> administrative office / postal address.
>>
>> in the case of piccadilly it's a complex of buildings. the admin
>> office / postal address is in a high rise alongside the actual sta
base of all public transport nodes in the UK?
> http://www.naptan.org.uk/
>
> Michael Smethurst pointed me at this lately: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOPS
> which is interesting at the level of identifying rolling stock (perhaps you
> don't want to go quite that far :-)
&g
Just to note that this release also has the first trickle of data from the
bbc archive (previously data only went back to early 2007):
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcone/programmes/schedules/london/2002/01/01
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p002shxj
For now it's just a few programmes but in time should
> I can handle that :-)
> I ll update the playcount data so that it points to
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes.
cheers mate
don't fancy a fight with people - they scary
and dynamic dns doesn't feel very linked data : )
Can we update the new cloud diagram prematurely and take out the
http://bbc
Just noticed that bbc programmes is pointing to
http://bbc-programmes.dyndns.org/
Now we have RDF on the live site (sadly without conneg yet) can we point to
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes?
Having said that Yves is linking playcount data to
http://bbc-programmes.dyndns.org/ so just changing t
Just chipping in on the BBC front. For now the /music rdf doesn't add an awful
lot to the world. It's just musicbrainz somewhere else. I'd leave it off until
either :
1. we add reviews into /music (altho they might make it to Revyu first)
2. /music gets linked up to /programmes [for about 2 hou
another bit of a joined up bbc.co.uk clunks into place... mainly thru the
efforts of you people
if u were all in london and the bbc paid me enough i'd buy you all beers : )
btw:
http://www.slideshare.net/fantasticlife/semweb-at-the-bbc
is a presentation i gave (badly) the other day to various b
ay is prettied up by the
style crew. Good separation there.
Thoughts from the edge,
Trent
At 09:28 AM 6/10/2008, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
>Michael Smethurst wrote:
>>
>>Morning all
>>
>>The site I'm working on uses microformats fairly heavily. And we've
>&
Morning all
The site I'm working on uses microformats fairly heavily. And we've encountered
all the usual problems: accessibility, lack of namespacing / scope etc. Anyway
for accessibility reasons we've just updated our standards to prohibit the use
of the microformat abbreviation design patter
and Keith Alexander (also CC'd) from here at Talis,
> who has been working on some stuff in this area.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tom.
>
> [1] http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/
>
>
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