Re: [ontolog-forum] Deborah L. McGuinness, keynote speaker at OCAS!!!

2011-10-23 Thread Patrick Durusau
notice that the overwhelming majority of them don't use any logical features beyond what can be stated more clearly and concisely in Aristotle's original notation. John -- Patrick Durusau patr...@durusau.net Chair, V1 - US TAG to JTC 1/SC 34 Convener, JTC 1/SC 34/WG 3 (Topic Maps) Editor

Re: Where to put the knowledge you add

2011-10-12 Thread Patrick Durusau
%2023%208059%203670, Fax: +44 23 8059 3045 tel:%2B44%2023%208059%203045 Mobile: +44 75 9533 4155 tel:%2B44%2075%209533%204155 , Home: +44 23 8061 5652 tel:%2B44%2023%208061%205652 http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~hg/ http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/%7Ehg/ -- Patrick Durusau patr

Re: Where to put the knowledge you add

2011-10-12 Thread Patrick Durusau
to ignore owl:sameAs on the basis of the components that make up the relationship? Hope you are having a great day! Patrick -- Patrick Durusau patr...@durusau.net Chair, V1 - US TAG to JTC 1/SC 34 Convener, JTC 1/SC 34/WG 3 (Topic Maps) Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO

Re: [foaf-protocols] How to make an idea popular

2011-09-19 Thread Patrick Durusau
-project.org/mailman/listinfo/foaf-protocols Amen! cc. some other mailing lists where members continue to be challenged about uptake of at least one of the following: 1. Linked Data 2. Semantic Web Project deliverables and their adoption beyond niches. -- Patrick Durusau patr...@durusau.net Chair

Re: [foaf-protocols] How to make an idea popular

2011-09-18 Thread Patrick Durusau
lists where members continue to be challenged about uptake of at least one of the following: 1. Linked Data 2. Semantic Web Project deliverables and their adoption beyond niches. -- Patrick Durusau patr...@durusau.net Chair, V1 - US TAG to JTC 1/SC 34 Convener, JTC 1/SC 34/WG 3 (Topic Maps

Re: Question: Authoritative URIs for Geo locations? Multi-lingual labels?

2011-09-09 Thread Patrick Durusau
Montreal /span Tabbed for readability. You might need to get rid of whitespace. -Sarven Better yet: li about=http://dbpedia.org/resource/Montreal; span property=geo:lat ... -Sarven -- Patrick Durusau patr...@durusau.net Chair, V1 - US TAG to JTC 1/SC 34 Convener, JTC 1/SC 34/WG 3 (Topic

Re: CAS, DUNS and LOD (was Re: Cost/Benefit Anyone? Re: Vote for my Semantic Web presentation at SXSW)

2011-08-23 Thread Patrick Durusau
David, On 8/22/2011 9:55 PM, David Booth wrote: On Mon, 2011-08-22 at 20:27 -0400, Patrick Durusau wrote: [ . . . ] The use of CAS identifiers supports searching across vast domains of *existing* literature. Not all, but most of it for the last 60 or so years. That is non-trivial and should

Re: CAS, DUNS and LOD (was Re: Cost/Benefit Anyone? Re: Vote for my Semantic Web presentation at SXSW)

2011-08-23 Thread Patrick Durusau
:31 AM, Patrick Durusaupatr...@durusau.net wrote: David, On 8/22/2011 9:55 PM, David Booth wrote: On Mon, 2011-08-22 at 20:27 -0400, Patrick Durusau wrote: [ . . . ] The use of CAS identifiers supports searching across vast domains of *existing* literature. Not all, but most of it for the last 60

Re: CAS, DUNS and LOD (was Re: Cost/Benefit Anyone? Re: Vote for my Semantic Web presentation at SXSW)

2011-08-22 Thread Patrick Durusau
David, On 8/22/2011 7:39 PM, David Wood wrote: Hi all, On Aug 19, 2011, at 06:37, Patrick Durusau wrote: Case in point, CAS, http://www.cas.org/. Coming up on 62 million organic and inorganic substances given unique identifiers. What is the incentive for any of their users/customers

Re: Cost/Benefit Anyone? Re: Vote for my Semantic Web presentation at SXSW

2011-08-19 Thread Patrick Durusau
. (In all fairness you argue they benefit as well, but they are the best judges of the best use of their time and resources.) Hope you are looking forward to a great weekend! Patrick On 8/18/2011 10:09 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 8/18/11 5:27 PM, Patrick Durusau wrote: Kingsley, Citing your

Re: Cost/Benefit Anyone? Re: Vote for my Semantic Web presentation at SXSW

2011-08-19 Thread Patrick Durusau
/19/2011 9:57 AM, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 8/19/11 6:37 AM, Patrick Durusau wrote: Kingsley, One more attempt. The press release I pointed to was an example that would have to be particularized to a CIO or CTO in term of *their* expenses of integration, then showing *their* savings. Yes

Cost/Benefit Anyone? Re: Vote for my Semantic Web presentation at SXSW

2011-08-18 Thread Patrick Durusau
or it won't be adopted. Or at least not widely. Hope you are having a great day! Patrick -- Patrick Durusau patr...@durusau.net Chair, V1 - US TAG to JTC 1/SC 34 Convener, JTC 1/SC 34/WG 3 (Topic Maps) Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO/IEC 26300 Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1

Re: Cost/Benefit Anyone? Re: Vote for my Semantic Web presentation at SXSW

2011-08-18 Thread Patrick Durusau
distinction? Hope you are having a great day! Patrick On 8/18/2011 10:54 AM, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 8/18/11 10:25 AM, Patrick Durusau wrote: Kingsley, Your characterization of problems is spot on: On 8/18/2011 9:01 AM, Kingsley Idehen wrote: snip Linked Data addresses many real world

Re: Cost/Benefit Anyone? Re: Vote for my Semantic Web presentation at SXSW

2011-08-18 Thread Patrick Durusau
a great day! Patrick On 8/18/2011 1:40 PM, Patrick Durusau wrote: Kingsley, From below: This critical value only materializes via appropriate context lenses. For decision makers it is always via opportunity costs. If someone else is eating you lunch by disrupting your market you simply have

Re: Cost/Benefit Anyone? Re: Vote for my Semantic Web presentation at SXSW

2011-08-18 Thread Patrick Durusau
Kingsley, On 8/18/2011 1:52 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 8/18/11 1:40 PM, Patrick Durusau wrote: Kingsley, From below: This critical value only materializes via appropriate context lenses. For decision makers it is always via opportunity costs. If someone else is eating you lunch

Re: Cost/Benefit Anyone? Re: Vote for my Semantic Web presentation at SXSW

2011-08-18 Thread Patrick Durusau
Kingsley, On 8/18/2011 2:25 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 8/18/11 2:03 PM, Patrick Durusau wrote: Kingsley, Here are some hard numbers on integration of data benefits: Future Integration Needs: Emerging Complex Data - http://www.informatica.com/news_events/press_releases/Pages

Re: Cost/Benefit Anyone? Re: Vote for my Semantic Web presentation at SXSW

2011-08-18 Thread Patrick Durusau
as usual but without some common basis for discussion we aren't going to get any closer to a common understanding. Hope you are having a great week! Patrick On 8/18/2011 3:24 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 8/18/11 2:50 PM, Patrick Durusau wrote: Kingsley, On 8/18/2011 1:52 PM, Kingsley

Re: Dataset URIs and metadata.

2011-07-25 Thread Patrick Durusau
. +353 91 495730 http://linkeddata.deri.ie/ http://sw-app.org/about.html On 22 Jul 2011, at 16:11, Patrick Durusau wrote: Michael, On 7/22/2011 10:42 AM, Michael Hausenblas wrote: Probably VoID metadata/dataset URIs will be easier to discover once the /.well-known/void trick (described

Re: Dataset URIs and metadata.

2011-07-25 Thread Patrick Durusau
are at the start of a great week! Patrick -- Patrick Durusau patr...@durusau.net Chair, V1 - US TAG to JTC 1/SC 34 Convener, JTC 1/SC 34/WG 3 (Topic Maps) Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO/IEC 26300 Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1, 13250-5 (Topic Maps) Another Word

Re: Dataset URIs and metadata.

2011-07-22 Thread Patrick Durusau
/ ? Dave -- Patrick Durusau patr...@durusau.net Chair, V1 - US TAG to JTC 1/SC 34 Convener, JTC 1/SC 34/WG 3 (Topic Maps) Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO/IEC 26300 Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1, 13250-5 (Topic Maps) Another Word For It (blog): http://tm.durusau.net

Re: What is a URL? And What is a URI

2010-11-12 Thread Patrick Durusau
Dave, Thanks! I was working on a much longer and convoluted response. Best to refer to the canonical source and let it go. Patrick On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 09:22 +, Dave Reynolds wrote: On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 12:52 -0500, Kingsley Idehen wrote: All, As the conversation about HTTP

Re: What is a URL? And What is a URI

2010-11-12 Thread Patrick Durusau
Kingsley, On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 10:12 -0500, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 11/12/10 8:40 AM, Patrick Durusau wrote: Kingsley, On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 07:58 -0500, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 11/12/10 5:59 AM, Patrick Durusau wrote: snip Patrick / Dave, I am hoping as the responses

Re: What is a URL? And What is a URI

2010-11-12 Thread Patrick Durusau
Kingsley, Last one for today! On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 16:05 -0500, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 11/12/10 1:31 PM, Patrick Durusau wrote: snip Not to be offensive but are you familiar with begging the question? You are assuming that ...we can solve ambiguity in the context of Linked Data

Re: Is 303 really necessary?

2010-11-04 Thread Patrick Durusau
. ;-) But curious if you can point to numbers on support for 303s and http-range-14? Might have enough flexibility but if not widely supported, so what? Hope you are having a great day! Patrick -- Patrick Durusau patr...@durusau.net Chair, V1 - US TAG to JTC 1/SC 34 Convener, JTC 1/SC 34/WG 3

Re: Is 303 really necessary?

2010-11-04 Thread Patrick Durusau
David, On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 13:24 -0400, David Wood wrote: On Nov 4, 2010, at 13:17, Patrick Durusau wrote: snip But curious if you can point to numbers on support for 303s and http-range-14? Might have enough flexibility but if not widely supported, so what? Sure. Both

Re: Is 303 really necessary?

2010-11-04 Thread Patrick Durusau
Nathan, On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 17:51 +, Nathan wrote: Ian Davis wrote: Hi all, The subject of this email is the title of a blog post I wrote last night questioning whether we actually need to continue with the 303 redirect approach for Linked Data. My suggestion is that replacing

Re: destabilizing core technologies: was Re: An RDF wishlist

2010-07-02 Thread Patrick Durusau
to think about it. ;-) Hope you are having a great day! Patrick Hope you are having a great day! Yes thanks, and likewise! cheers, Dan -- Patrick Durusau patr...@durusau.net Chair, V1 - US TAG to JTC 1/SC 34 Convener, JTC 1/SC 34/WG 3 (Topic Maps) Editor, OpenDocument Format TC

Re: Show me the money - (was Subjects as Literals)

2010-07-02 Thread Patrick Durusau
forms? As I say in another post, I am not suggesting I have an alternative but am suggesting that we broaden the conversation to more than we have invested so much so we have to be right sort of reasoning. Hope you are having a great day! Patrick -- Patrick Durusau patr...@durusau.net

Re: Subjects as Literals

2010-07-02 Thread Patrick Durusau
still using COBOL. Hope you are having a great day! Patrick -- Patrick Durusau patr...@durusau.net Chair, V1 - US TAG to JTC 1/SC 34 Convener, JTC 1/SC 34/WG 3 (Topic Maps) Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO/IEC 26300 Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1, 13250-5 (Topic Maps

Re: destabilizing core technologies: was Re: An RDF wishlist

2010-07-02 Thread Patrick Durusau
. Good point. But the basic tools to handle data have been around for a long time. Why so long to get to the place where users can say: I want to make one of those. ? Which I agree is a very good strategy. Hope you are having a great day! Patrick Ian -- Patrick Durusau patr

Re: Show me the money - (was Subjects as Literals)

2010-07-02 Thread Patrick Durusau
meetings is probably insufficient. Hope you are looking forward to a great weekend! Patrick -- Patrick Durusau patr...@durusau.net Chair, V1 - US TAG to JTC 1/SC 34 Convener, JTC 1/SC 34/WG 3 (Topic Maps) Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO/IEC 26300 Co-Editor, ISO/IEC

Re: Show me the money - (was Subjects as Literals)

2010-07-02 Thread Patrick Durusau
Henry, On 7/2/2010 6:03 AM, Henry Story wrote: On 2 Jul 2010, at 11:57, Patrick Durusau wrote: On 7/2/2010 5:27 AM, Ian Davis wrote: On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Patrick Durusaupatr...@durusau.net wrote: I make this point in another post this morning but is your

Re: destabilizing core technologies: was Re: An RDF wishlist

2010-07-02 Thread Patrick Durusau
Henry, On 7/2/2010 5:58 AM, Henry Story wrote: On 2 Jul 2010, at 11:39, Patrick Durusau wrote: Good point. But the basic tools to handle data have been around for a long time. The web could only get going in the 90ies when 1) Windows 95 become (A GUI) widely deployed

Re: Show me the money - (was Subjects as Literals)

2010-07-02 Thread Patrick Durusau
reply with equally ad hominem remarks but it isn't worth the effort. Patrick On 7/2/2010 7:03 AM, Henry Story wrote: On 2 Jul 2010, at 12:49, Patrick Durusau wrote: Henry, On 7/2/2010 6:03 AM, Henry Story wrote: On 2 Jul 2010, at 11:57, Patrick Durusau wrote: On 7/2/2010

Re: destabilizing core technologies: was Re: An RDF wishlist

2010-07-02 Thread Patrick Durusau
expect to discover a new continent. The most accessible account on the myth about the world being flat is Umberto Eco's Serendipities: Language and Lunacy. 1998 - See the chapter The Force of Falsity. Hope you are having a great day! Patrick -- Patrick Durusau patr...@durusau.net Chair, V1

Re: Organization ontology

2010-06-08 Thread Patrick Durusau
precise -- Patrick Durusau patr...@durusau.net Chair, V1 - US TAG to JTC 1/SC 34 Convener, JTC 1/SC 34/WG 3 (Topic Maps) Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO/IEC 26300 Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1, 13250-5 (Topic Maps) Another Word For It (blog): http://tm.durusau.net

Re: Earthquake in Chile; Ideas? to help

2010-03-01 Thread Patrick Durusau
by return e-mail. -- Patrick Durusau patr...@durusau.net Chair, V1 - US TAG to JTC 1/SC 34 Convener, JTC 1/SC 34/WG 3 (Topic Maps) Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO/IEC 26300 Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1, 13250-5 (Topic Maps)