Re: Any objections against using xsd:anySimpleType or rdfs:Literal as the rdfs:range for OWL datatype properties?

2010-10-12 Thread Martin Hepp
Hi Pat: Apologies for the delay! Well, you could define your own datatype which is the union of these, in the required sense. That might be generally useful in any case, and might get used more widely if you were to publicize it. I am a bit concerned that this will hamper the ability of cu

Re: Any objections against using xsd:anySimpleType or rdfs:Literal as the rdfs:range for OWL datatype properties?

2010-09-24 Thread Pat Hayes
On Sep 23, 2010, at 1:21 PM, Martin Hepp wrote: > Hi all: > Thanks! So I understand that for an owl:DatatypeProperty that may hold > xsd:float, xsd:integer, xsd:int, xsd:double, or xsd:decimal values, the > simplest solution is rdfs:Literal. > > Is that correct? > > xsd:decimal would include

Re: Any objections against using xsd:anySimpleType or rdfs:Literal as the rdfs:range for OWL datatype properties?

2010-09-23 Thread Stephane Fellah
Sorry I made a type : please read: I think a datatype should NOT only be restricted to XML schema. Using xsd:simpleType would discard the case of using XML Literal (for example a GML encoded Geometry). Literal seems to be a safer bet. I wish to see in a future version of RDF, a mechanism to valid

Re: Any objections against using xsd:anySimpleType or rdfs:Literal as the rdfs:range for OWL datatype properties?

2010-09-23 Thread Stephane Fellah
Using xsd:simpleType would discard the case of using XML Literal (for example a GML encoded Geometry). Literal seems to be a safer bet. I wish to see in a future version of RDF, a mechanism to valid XML literal with an XML schema complex type or element. I think a datatype should only be restricted

Re: Any objections against using xsd:anySimpleType or rdfs:Literal as the rdfs:range for OWL datatype properties?

2010-09-23 Thread Alan Ruttenberg
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Martin Hepp wrote: > NB: > > It seems that OWL 2 supports > > DataUnionOf( xsd:float xsd:decimal ) > > The question is how broadly current apps and repositories already support > OWL 2, in particular "at Web scale", outside of small, controlled > environments. Wha

Re: Any objections against using xsd:anySimpleType or rdfs:Literal as the rdfs:range for OWL datatype properties?

2010-09-23 Thread Martin Hepp
NB: It seems that OWL 2 supports DataUnionOf( xsd:float xsd:decimal ) The question is how broadly current apps and repositories already support OWL 2, in particular "at Web scale", outside of small, controlled environments. So I guess rdfs:Literal is the better choice for the moment. Mar

Re: Any objections against using xsd:anySimpleType or rdfs:Literal as the rdfs:range for OWL datatype properties?

2010-09-23 Thread Martin Hepp
Hi all: Thanks! So I understand that for an owl:DatatypeProperty that may hold xsd:float, xsd:integer, xsd:int, xsd:double, or xsd:decimal values, the simplest solution is rdfs:Literal. Is that correct? xsd:decimal would include xsd:integer and xsd:int (?), but there is no standard dataty

Re: Any objections against using xsd:anySimpleType or rdfs:Literal as the rdfs:range for OWL datatype properties?

2010-09-23 Thread Alan Ruttenberg
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Martin Hepp wrote: > Dear all: > > Are there any theoretical or practical problems caused by defining the range > of an owl:DatatypeProperty as > >  http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#anySimpleType > > or > >  http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#Literal rdfs:Litera

Re: Any objections against using xsd:anySimpleType or rdfs:Literal as the rdfs:range for OWL datatype properties?

2010-09-23 Thread Nathan
Martin Hepp wrote: Dear all: Are there any theoretical or practical problems caused by defining the range of an owl:DatatypeProperty as http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#anySimpleType RDF Semantics has a good discussion on this at: http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-mt/#dtype_interp note that: "Th

Any objections against using xsd:anySimpleType or rdfs:Literal as the rdfs:range for OWL datatype properties?

2010-09-23 Thread Martin Hepp
Dear all: Are there any theoretical or practical problems caused by defining the range of an owl:DatatypeProperty as http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#anySimpleType or http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#Literal ? I think both should be valid (and are useful) in OWL DL ontologies, but