Re: CAS, DUNS and LOD (was Re: Cost/Benefit Anyone? Re: Vote for my Semantic Web presentation at SXSW)

2011-08-24 Thread David Wood
On Aug 24, 2011, at 8:01, Damian Steer wrote: > > On 24 Aug 2011, at 15:40, David Wood wrote: > >> On Aug 24, 2011, at 2:44, Leigh Dodds wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> On 23 August 2011 15:17, Gannon Dick wrote: Either "Linked Data ecosystem" or "linked data Ecosystem" is a dangerously >>>

Re: CAS, DUNS and LOD (was Re: Cost/Benefit Anyone? Re: Vote for my Semantic Web presentation at SXSW)

2011-08-24 Thread Damian Steer
On 24 Aug 2011, at 15:40, David Wood wrote: > On Aug 24, 2011, at 2:44, Leigh Dodds wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On 23 August 2011 15:17, Gannon Dick wrote: >>> Either "Linked Data ecosystem" or "linked data Ecosystem" is a dangerously >>> flawed paradigm, IMHO. You don't "improve" MeSH by >>> fla

Re: CAS, DUNS and LOD (was Re: Cost/Benefit Anyone? Re: Vote for my Semantic Web presentation at SXSW)

2011-08-24 Thread Leigh Dodds
Hi, On 24 August 2011 15:40, David Wood wrote: > On Aug 24, 2011, at 2:44, Leigh Dodds wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On 23 August 2011 15:17, Gannon Dick wrote: >>> Either "Linked Data ecosystem" or "linked data Ecosystem" is a dangerously >>> flawed paradigm, IMHO.  You don't "improve" MeSH by >>> fl

Re: CAS, DUNS and LOD (was Re: Cost/Benefit Anyone? Re: Vote for my Semantic Web presentation at SXSW)

2011-08-24 Thread David Wood
On Aug 24, 2011, at 2:44, Leigh Dodds wrote: > Hi, > > On 23 August 2011 15:17, Gannon Dick wrote: >> Either "Linked Data ecosystem" or "linked data Ecosystem" is a dangerously >> flawed paradigm, IMHO. You don't "improve" MeSH by >> flattening it, for example, it is what it is. Since CAS num

Re: CAS, DUNS and LOD (was Re: Cost/Benefit Anyone? Re: Vote for my Semantic Web presentation at SXSW)

2011-08-24 Thread Leigh Dodds
Hi, On 23 August 2011 15:17, Gannon Dick wrote: > Either "Linked Data ecosystem" or "linked data Ecosystem" is a dangerously > flawed paradigm, IMHO.  You don't "improve" MeSH by > flattening it, for example, it is what it is. Since CAS numbers are not a > directed graph, an algorithmic transfo

Re: CAS, DUNS and LOD (was Re: Cost/Benefit Anyone? Re: Vote for my Semantic Web presentation at SXSW)

2011-08-23 Thread Gannon Dick
--- On Tue, 8/23/11, Patrick Durusau wrote: "The fact remains that even if we switched (miraculously) today to all new URI identifiers, we will be accessing literature using prior identifiers for a very long time. I suspect hundreds of years." Somewhere around 1890, I think, the amount of publ

Re: CAS, DUNS and LOD (was Re: Cost/Benefit Anyone? Re: Vote for my Semantic Web presentation at SXSW)

2011-08-23 Thread Gannon Dick
*is* a directed graph) is risks the creation of a "new" irreconcilable taxonomy. For example, Nitrogen is ok to breathe and liquid Nitrogen is a not very practical way to chill wine. Just my 2 cents. --- On Tue, 8/23/11, John Erickson wrote: > From: John Erickson > Subject: Re:

Re: CAS, DUNS and LOD (was Re: Cost/Benefit Anyone? Re: Vote for my Semantic Web presentation at SXSW)

2011-08-23 Thread Patrick Durusau
John On 8/23/2011 9:05 AM, John Erickson wrote: This is an important discussion that (I believe) foreshadows how canonical identifiers are managed moving forward. Both CAS and DUNS numbers are a good example. Consider the challenge of linking EPA data; it's easy to create a list of toxic chemic

Re: CAS, DUNS and LOD (was Re: Cost/Benefit Anyone? Re: Vote for my Semantic Web presentation at SXSW)

2011-08-23 Thread John Erickson
This is an important discussion that (I believe) foreshadows how canonical identifiers are managed moving forward. Both CAS and DUNS numbers are a good example. Consider the challenge of linking EPA data; it's easy to create a list of toxic chemicals that are common across many EPA datasets. Based

Re: CAS, DUNS and LOD (was Re: Cost/Benefit Anyone? Re: Vote for my Semantic Web presentation at SXSW)

2011-08-23 Thread Patrick Durusau
David, On 8/22/2011 9:55 PM, David Booth wrote: On Mon, 2011-08-22 at 20:27 -0400, Patrick Durusau wrote: [ . . . ] The use of CAS identifiers supports searching across vast domains of *existing* literature. Not all, but most of it for the last 60 or so years. That is non-trivial and should no

Re: CAS, DUNS and LOD (was Re: Cost/Benefit Anyone? Re: Vote for my Semantic Web presentation at SXSW)

2011-08-22 Thread David Booth
On Mon, 2011-08-22 at 20:27 -0400, Patrick Durusau wrote: [ . . . ] > The use of CAS identifiers supports searching across vast domains of > *existing* literature. Not all, but most of it for the last 60 or so > years. > > That is non-trivial and should not be lightly discarded. > > BTW, your ob

Re: CAS, DUNS and LOD (was Re: Cost/Benefit Anyone? Re: Vote for my Semantic Web presentation at SXSW)

2011-08-22 Thread Patrick Durusau
David, On 8/22/2011 7:39 PM, David Wood wrote: Hi all, On Aug 19, 2011, at 06:37, Patrick Durusau wrote: Case in point, CAS, http://www.cas.org/. Coming up on 62 million organic and inorganic substances given unique identifiers. What is the incentive for any of their users/customers to switch

CAS, DUNS and LOD (was Re: Cost/Benefit Anyone? Re: Vote for my Semantic Web presentation at SXSW)

2011-08-22 Thread David Wood
Hi all, On Aug 19, 2011, at 06:37, Patrick Durusau wrote: > Case in point, CAS, http://www.cas.org/. Coming up on 62 million organic and > inorganic substances given unique identifiers. What is the incentive for any > of their users/customers to switch to Linked Data? Well, for one thing, CAS (