Re: Content negotiation negotiation

2013-04-24 Thread Hugh Glaser
On 23 Apr 2013, at 22:39, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: On 4/23/13 5:04 PM, Hugh Glaser wrote: Ah POWDER - of course. It all comes together :-) (Sorry if this is boring and obvious to others - and thanks Kingsley.) So last (?!) 2 things, if I may. Any proposal to attach

Re: Content negotiation negotiation

2013-04-24 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 4/24/13 7:06 AM, Hugh Glaser wrote: On 23 Apr 2013, at 22:39, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: On 4/23/13 5:04 PM, Hugh Glaser wrote: Ah POWDER - of course. It all comes together :-) (Sorry if this is boring and obvious to others - and thanks Kingsley.) So last (?!) 2

Re: Content negotiation negotiation

2013-04-24 Thread Michael Brunnbauer
Hello Hugh, if you have a representation, you could specify its MIME type with dcterms:format and the http://purl.org/NET/mediatypes/ namespace. Connecting the representation with the URL requires the URL to be described with something like POWDER or uri4uri.net and some conneg property.

Re: Content negotiation negotiation

2013-04-24 Thread Phillip Lord
Hmmm. So, taking a look at these three URLs, can you tell me a) which of these support content negotiation, and b) what formats they provide. http://dx.doi.org/10.3390/fi4041004 http://dx.doi.org/10.1594/PANGAEA.527932 http://dx.doi.org/10.1000/182 I tried vapor -- it seems to work by

Re: Content negotiation negotiation

2013-04-24 Thread Leigh Dodds
The first two indicate that responses vary based on Accept header as both have a Vary: Accept. The third doesn't so doesn't support negotiation. None of the URLs advertise what formats are available. That's not a requirement for content-negotiation, although it'd be useful. Cheers, L. On Wed,

Re: Content negotiation negotiation

2013-04-24 Thread Phillip Lord
Well, more than useful I think. Content negotiation without it seems a bit pointless. As you say, the last doesn't, the first two do, they overlap in formats they will return, but each have some unique ones. But I had to read the documentation to find this out. Bit clunky. Phil Leigh Dodds

Content negotiation negotiation

2013-04-23 Thread Hugh Glaser
On 22 Apr 2013, at 12:18, Phillip Lord phillip.l...@newcastle.ac.uk wrote: snip We need to check for content negotiation; I'm not clear, though, how we are supposed to know what forms of content are available. Is there anyway we can tell from your website that content negotiation is possible?

Re: Content negotiation negotiation

2013-04-23 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 4/23/13 1:42 PM, Hugh Glaser wrote: We need to check for content negotiation; I'm not clear, though, how we are supposed to know what forms of content are available. Is there anyway we can tell from your website that content negotiation is possible? You can start with vapour [1], assuming you

Re: Content negotiation negotiation

2013-04-23 Thread Hugh Glaser
Thanks Kingsley. Yeah, Vapour is cool, but it doesn't address my question. (Which actually seems to have got lost from your response.) Best On 23 Apr 2013, at 19:03, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: On 4/23/13 1:42 PM, Hugh Glaser wrote: We need to check for content negotiation;

Re: Content negotiation negotiation

2013-04-23 Thread Mark Baker
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Hugh Glaser h...@ecs.soton.ac.uk wrote: On 22 Apr 2013, at 12:18, Phillip Lord phillip.l...@newcastle.ac.uk wrote: snip We need to check for content negotiation; I'm not clear, though, how we are supposed to know what forms of content are available. Is there

Re: Content negotiation negotiation

2013-04-23 Thread Hugh Glaser
Ah of course - thanks Mark, silly me. So I look at the Link: header for something like curl -L -i http://dbpedia.org/resource/Luton Which gives me the information I want. Anyone got any offers for how I would use Linked Data to get this into my RDF store? So then I can do things something like:

Re: Content negotiation negotiation

2013-04-23 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 4/23/13 2:49 PM, Mark Baker wrote: On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Hugh Glaser h...@ecs.soton.ac.uk wrote: On 22 Apr 2013, at 12:18, Phillip Lord phillip.l...@newcastle.ac.uk wrote: snip We need to check for content negotiation; I'm not clear, though, how we are supposed to know what forms

Re: Content negotiation negotiation

2013-04-23 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 4/23/13 3:39 PM, Hugh Glaser wrote: Ah of course - thanks Mark, silly me. So I look at the Link: header for something like curl -L -i http://dbpedia.org/resource/Luton Which gives me the information I want. Anyone got any offers for how I would use Linked Data to get this into my RDF store?

Re: Content negotiation negotiation

2013-04-23 Thread Hugh Glaser
Ah, thanks for the Web101 course. :-) Sorry, I usually live in a Linked Data world, so I don't think about html stuff such as link rel=alternate … because (like the header) it doesn't appear in the RDF. On 23 Apr 2013, at 20:54, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: On 4/23/13 3:39

Re: Content negotiation negotiation

2013-04-23 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 4/23/13 4:23 PM, Hugh Glaser wrote: Ah, thanks for the Web101 course.:-) Sorry, I usually live in a Linked Data world, so I don't think about html stuff such as link rel=alternate … because (like the header) it doesn't appear in the RDF. On 23 Apr 2013, at 20:54, Kingsley

Re: Content negotiation negotiation

2013-04-23 Thread Hugh Glaser
Ah POWDER - of course. It all comes together :-) (Sorry if this is boring and obvious to others - and thanks Kingsley.) So last (?!) 2 things, if I may. Any proposal to attach types to the objects of the wdrs:desribedby triples? Any proposal so that I can infer the available types for the whole

Re: Content negotiation negotiation

2013-04-23 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 4/23/13 5:04 PM, Hugh Glaser wrote: Ah POWDER - of course. It all comes together :-) (Sorry if this is boring and obvious to others - and thanks Kingsley.) So last (?!) 2 things, if I may. Any proposal to attach types to the objects of the wdrs:desribedby triples? So as in