Re: "DOM" for RDF?

2013-12-04 Thread Richard Light
On 04/12/2013 10:42, Armando Stellato wrote: http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-api/ Why did it die? Lack of interest:-( There were no real uptake in the idea neither by users nor by implementers. It really was heading for a paper-only specification. It seems that this direction was not what the commu

RE: "DOM" for RDF?

2013-12-04 Thread Armando Stellato
> >> http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-api/ > > Why did it die? > > Lack of interest:-( There were no real uptake in the idea neither by users nor > by implementers. It really was heading for a paper-only specification. It > seems that this direction was not what the community wanted at large. ..though ma

Re: "DOM" for RDF?

2013-12-04 Thread Ivan Herman
On 02 Dec 2013, at 15:22 , Richard Light wrote: > > On 02/12/2013 11:10, Karl Dubost wrote: >> Le 2 déc. 2013 à 06:00, Richard Light >> a écrit : >> >>> By this, I mean "an application programming interface (API) for [RDF >>> graphs]", which will be "a standard programming interface that ca

Re: "DOM" for RDF?

2013-12-02 Thread Richard Light
On 02/12/2013 11:10, Karl Dubost wrote: Le 2 déc. 2013 à 06:00, Richard Light a écrit : By this, I mean "an application programming interface (API) for [RDF graphs]", which will be "a standard programming interface that can be used in a wide variety of environments and applications. http://

Re: "DOM" for RDF?

2013-12-02 Thread Richard Light
On 02/12/2013 11:23, Tim Berners-Lee wrote: I think my conclusion from the DOM experience was that actually people wanted jQuery -- something optimized for the language. My own RDF APIs have been optimized for js and python respectively, though they share style and many calls. See undocumente

Re: "DOM" for RDF?

2013-12-02 Thread Alfredo Serafini
Yes Richard, i agree and mybe my reply ws not so clear regarding what i mean. I like the ld-api (such as Elda) which uses ldpath much like xpath is used in the XSLT or DOM context... the next step in that direction could be marmotta, i agree on that. I also love very much Sail or the gremlin lang

Re: "DOM" for RDF?

2013-12-02 Thread Martynas Jusevičius
Richard, I think Graphity is close to what you're looking for: https://github.com/Graphity/graphity-browser It supports SPARQL Protocol and Graph Store Protocol, content negotiation, XSLT transformations of RDF output and RDF input user interface using RDF/POST (http://www.lsrn.org/semweb/rdfpost.

Re: "DOM" for RDF?

2013-12-02 Thread Richard Light
On 02/12/2013 11:10, Alfredo Serafini wrote: Hi Richard from my point of view the DOM-like approach does exists yet, and it's by SPARQL and LDpath. What are them lacking? Do you feel there should be an object-oriented approach? As for the Jena model or Sesame internal Graph representation? I

Re: "DOM" for RDF?

2013-12-02 Thread Tim Berners-Lee
I think my conclusion from the DOM experience was that actually people wanted jQuery -- something optimized for the language. My own RDF APIs have been optimized for js and python respectively, though they share style and many calls. See undocumented rdflib.js https://github.com/linkeddata/rdf

Re: "DOM" for RDF?

2013-12-02 Thread Alfredo Serafini
Hi Richard from my point of view the DOM-like approach does exists yet, and it's by SPARQL and LDpath. What are them lacking? Do you feel there should be an object-oriented approach? As for the Jena model or Sesame internal Graph representation? If this is the case it could be interesting from my

Re: "DOM" for RDF?

2013-12-02 Thread Karl Dubost
Le 2 déc. 2013 à 06:00, Richard Light a écrit : > By this, I mean "an application programming interface (API) for [RDF > graphs]", which will be "a standard programming interface that can be used in > a wide variety of environments and applications. http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-api/ -- Karl Dub

"DOM" for RDF?

2013-12-02 Thread Richard Light
Hi, I'm sure this has been discussed many times and/or ages ago, but I am struck by the absence of a DOM-like W3C framework for RDF. By this, I mean "an application programming interface (API) for [RDF graphs]", which will be "a standard programming interface that can be used in a wide variet