Re: Labels separate from localnames (Was: Best Practice for Renaming OWL Vocabulary Elements

2011-04-22 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 4/22/11 1:35 PM, Bob Ferris wrote: Hi Martin, On 4/22/2011 6:18 PM, Martin Hepp wrote: So our only disagreement seems to be about having the cardinality info in the label, and I think that, at least for the moment, that is the better choice as compared to the alternatives. I really don'

Re: Labels separate from localnames (Was: Best Practice for Renaming OWL Vocabulary Elements

2011-04-22 Thread Bob Ferris
Hi Martin, On 4/22/2011 6:18 PM, Martin Hepp wrote: So our only disagreement seems to be about having the cardinality info in the label, and I think that, at least for the moment, that is the better choice as compared to the alternatives. I really don't understand why you need this cardinal

Re: Labels separate from localnames (Was: Best Practice for Renaming OWL Vocabulary Elements

2011-04-22 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 4/22/11 12:18 PM, Martin Hepp wrote: Hi Nathan, Kingsley: My point is that I want anybody using any ontology / annotation tool to immediately spot the cardinality recommendation. rdfs:label is displayed by all / most tools. Yes, but time to stop accepting in appropriate patterns :-) rdfs:

Re: Labels separate from localnames (Was: Best Practice for Renaming OWL Vocabulary Elements

2011-04-22 Thread Martin Hepp
Hi Nathan, Kingsley: My point is that I want anybody using any ontology / annotation tool to immediately spot the cardinality recommendation. rdfs:label is displayed by all / most tools. if I hide it in rdfs:comment, it is not as accessible. Defining an owl:AnnotationProperty will be completely

Re: Labels separate from localnames (Was: Best Practice for Renaming OWL Vocabulary Elements

2011-04-22 Thread Nathan
Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 4/22/11 7:36 AM, Martin Hepp wrote: See replies inline ;-) Sorry to say this, but I think you are making a mistake. To say that the rdfs:label has to look like a variable name because it is for Web developers sounds to me like you are saying that the javadoc of a met

Re: Labels separate from localnames (Was: Best Practice for Renaming OWL Vocabulary Elements

2011-04-22 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 4/22/11 7:36 AM, Martin Hepp wrote: See replies inline ;-) Sorry to say this, but I think you are making a mistake. To say that the rdfs:label has to look like a variable name because it is for Web developers sounds to me like you are saying that the javadoc of a method should look like a

Re: Labels separate from localnames (Was: Best Practice for Renaming OWL Vocabulary Elements

2011-04-22 Thread Martin Hepp
See replies inline ;-) > Sorry to say this, but I think you are making a mistake. To say that the > rdfs:label has to look like a variable name because it is for Web developers > sounds to me like you are saying that the javadoc of a method should look > like a piece of code because it is addres

Re: Labels separate from localnames (Was: Best Practice for Renaming OWL Vocabulary Elements

2011-04-22 Thread Antoine Zimmermann
See several comments inline. Le 22/04/2011 09:44, Martin Hepp a écrit : Hi Tim, all: First: Thanks for your great feedback. As for labels vs. identifiers: What I want to do is change the identifier of a few conceptual elements. The reason why I also changed the labels in my example is that in

Re: Labels separate from localnames (Was: Best Practice for Renaming OWL Vocabulary Elements

2011-04-22 Thread Martin Hepp
Hi Tim, all: First: Thanks for your great feedback. As for labels vs. identifiers: What I want to do is change the identifier of a few conceptual elements. The reason why I also changed the labels in my example is that in GoodRelations, labels are historically geared towards the publisher of d

Re: Labels separate from localnames (Was: Best Practice for Renaming OWL Vocabulary Elements

2011-04-21 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 4/21/11 3:19 PM, Tim Berners-Lee wrote: Martin, Confused. Do you mean you want to change the localname (the bit after the namespace in the URI) or the label? In your examples below, you have the same string for the localname and label. This looks like a bug. Let me explain things from the

Labels separate from localnames (Was: Best Practice for Renaming OWL Vocabulary Elements

2011-04-21 Thread Tim Berners-Lee
Martin, Confused. Do you mean you want to change the localname (the bit after the namespace in the URI) or the label? In your examples below, you have the same string for the localname and label. This looks like a bug. Let me explain things from the point of view of the tabulator, for example,