On 7/16/14 9:55 AM, Pieter Colpaert wrote:
Hi list,
Short version:
I want real-world concepts to be able to have a URI without a
http://;. You cannot transfer any real-world concept over an Internet
protocol anyway. Why I would consider changing this can be
* If you don't agree, why?
*
Hi Kingsley,
Thank you very much for your reply! Very satisfied with this response.
This answer should be in text books.
I would summarize this thread as:
Question: Why do we refer to real-world concepts using HTTP URIs? You
cannot GET them over HTTP anyway?
Answer: Because words denote
I never really understood the difference between real world objects
and their representations. I've never had to talk about the
representation of something, so I always just dealt with real world
URIs. I have http://zebra. For me http://zebra represents the animal
zebra. If people want to know
Hi Luca,
Thank you for your reply.
An example why you would need it is to add more statements for e.g.,
hypermedia applications which need to know how to navigate. For
instance, our zebra has many owners (and these owners don't fit on one
page):
HTTP GET http://zebra#animal
Response:
Hi Pieter,
I disagree, pending clarification.
If the transportation costs of (RESTful) URI's - an Ontology - between Top
Level Domains TLD is Zero - more specifically exp(Zero)-1=Zero, then the
URI's are entangled (as in Quantum Entanglement). In this case, the URI's
are not broken, but
Hi Pieter,
If we still stick with URIs (as a name but not a locator) [1] but with a
different scheme, say things or something, your solution will still work
the same, right? There are already URN/DOI to URL resolvers [3], so
similarly but rather than using a service, your URIs identifying real
When
do people need to refer to the document or the representation of the
animal zebra?
If we want to differentiate between
I like the zebra;
I don't like the document about the zebra.
Or more real-world examples:
a document about Barack Obama has a different creation date
than Barack
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Ruben Verborgh ruben.verbo...@ugent.be wrote:
If we want to differentiate between
I like the zebra;
I don't like the document about the zebra.
But why do they need to be on the same domain? Several parties on
different domains can represent information
But why do they need to be on the same domain?
They don't need to be.
Several parties on
different domains can represent information about the animal zebra.
They just seem like different things to me.
They are, indeed.
Recommended reading would be Cool URIs for the Semantic Web:
http://www.w3.org/TR/cooluris/
In spite of the advice in that document, people can and sometimes do use
the same URI for both the real world entity (such as a zebra) and the
document that describes that zebra. Doing so may be
Hi Pieter,
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Pieter Colpaert pieter.colpa...@ugent.be
wrote:
Hi Nandana,
Thank you a lot for your clear reply!
On 2014-07-17 19:17, Nandana Mihindukulasooriya wrote:
Hi Pieter,
If we still stick with URIs (as a name but not a locator) [1] but with a
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-Original Message-
From: David Booth [mailto:da...@dbooth.org]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014 11:18 AM
To: public-lod@w3.org
Subject: Re: Real-world concept URIs
Recommended reading would be Cool URIs for the Semantic Web
If we want to differentiate between
I like the
zebra;
I
don't like the document about the zebra.
But why do they need to be on
the same domain? Several parties on
different domains can represent information
about the animal zebra.
They just seem like
different things to
I can't speak for other countries in North, South and Central America,
but I can say the that United States does not have an official
language, even though people who hate immigrants wish it did.
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On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Gannon Dick gannon_d...@yahoo.com wrote:
If we want to
?
--Gannon
On Thu, 7/17/14, Paul Houle ontolo...@gmail.com wrote:
Subject: Re: Real-world concept URIs
To: Gannon Dick gannon_d...@yahoo.com
Cc: Ruben Verborgh ruben.verbo...@ugent.be, Luca Matteis
lmatt...@gmail.com, Pieter Colpaert pieter.colpa
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