Re: European court reaches verdict with profound impact in Internet

2014-05-18 Thread ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program
The problem is not as black and white as you paint it. The real problem with the Internet is that legislators do not know how to legislate rights and regulations to deal properly with civil and human rights and intellectual property rights and the US based companies are the ones profiting the mo

Re: European court reaches verdict with profound impact in Internet

2014-05-17 Thread Simon Spero
IANAL but: Surely all Google, or any US search engine, would need to do is close down all local subsidiaries in states that are subject to the ECJ. EU member states would be free to attempt to block all access to google (or to refer the reasonableness of the preliminary ruling back to the ECJ; th

Re: European court reaches verdict with profound impact in Internet

2014-05-17 Thread ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program
I agree with you on the right to be forgotten. Yet technically it would make more sense to create special tagging which would upon request of the individual and through an mediation process involving a national agency supervising digital rights and privacy to have search engines provide a (legal

Re: European court reaches verdict with profound impact in Internet

2014-05-17 Thread Gannon Dick
On Sat, 5/17/14, Michael Brunnbauer wrote: > But there is a way out of the verdict and it involves novel use of linked data and semantic web technologies. I very much doubt that triples can help here. = I agree, Michael, but

Re: European court reaches verdict with profound impact in Internet

2014-05-17 Thread Michael Brunnbauer
Hello Milton, On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 05:41:49AM -0700, ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program wrote: > My point of view is shared by most members of EDRI, the European Digital > Rights platform. The important word is "most" here. And you too seem to agree that a right to be forgotten makes sense. Many p

Re: European court reaches verdict with profound impact in Internet

2014-05-17 Thread ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program
My point of view is shared by most members of EDRI, the European Digital Rights platform. Google is forced to change everything including offensive content from e.g. FaceBook!!! And because of the European legalese the verdict will also apply generically to all other search engine companies. An

Re: European court reaches verdict with profound impact in Internet

2014-05-16 Thread Michael Brunnbauer
hi all, http://www.internet-law.de/2014/05/the-ecj-is-right-the-result-is-wrong.html Regards, Michael Brunnbauer On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 01:09:54PM -0700, ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program wrote: > The European Union Court has reached a verdict with a profound impact on the > functioning of the Int

Re: European court reaches verdict with profound impact in Internet

2014-05-16 Thread Krzysztof Janowicz
Otherwise an Orwellian future looms at the horizon where history is conveniently rewritten in cases where for freedom of information reasons this obviously should NOT. I know that this is not the most productive way to address your email and start a discussion on an important topic; but, with a

Re: European court reaches verdict with profound impact in Internet

2014-05-16 Thread Gannon Dick
" I think it is high time that the creators, maintainers and developers of the platforms which collectively form the Internet sit down with search engine companies and work out some practical rules to provide the option of the right to have some personal information forgotten, as stated in this