Role of URI and HTTP in Linked Data

2010-11-09 Thread Jiří Procházka
Hi, having read all of the past week and still ongoing discussion about HTTP status codes, URIs and most importantly their meaning from Linked Data perspective, I want share my thoughts on this topic. I don't mean to downplay anyone's work but I think the role of URI and HTTP specifications (espec

Re: Role of URI and HTTP in Linked Data

2010-11-10 Thread Nathan
Hi Jiří, Jiří Procházka wrote: Hi, having read all of the past week and still ongoing discussion about HTTP status codes, URIs and most importantly their meaning from Linked Data perspective, I want share my thoughts on this topic. I don't mean to downplay anyone's work but I think the role of

Re: Role of URI and HTTP in Linked Data

2010-11-10 Thread Jiří Procházka
On 11/10/2010 11:44 AM, Nathan wrote: > Hi Jiří, > > Jiří Procházka wrote: >> Hi, >> having read all of the past week and still ongoing discussion about HTTP >> status codes, URIs and most importantly their meaning from Linked Data >> perspective, I want share my thoughts on this topic. >> >> I do

Re: Role of URI and HTTP in Linked Data

2010-11-10 Thread Nathan
Jiří Procházka wrote: On 11/10/2010 11:44 AM, Nathan wrote: Hi Jiří, Jiří Procházka wrote: Hi, having read all of the past week and still ongoing discussion about HTTP status codes, URIs and most importantly their meaning from Linked Data perspective, I want share my thoughts on this topic. I

Re: Role of URI and HTTP in Linked Data

2010-11-10 Thread Jiří Procházka
On 11/10/2010 11:26 PM, Nathan wrote: > Jiří Procházka wrote: >> On 11/10/2010 11:44 AM, Nathan wrote: >>> Hi Jiří, >>> >>> Jiří Procházka wrote: Hi, having read all of the past week and still ongoing discussion about HTTP status codes, URIs and most importantly their meaning fr

Re: Role of URI and HTTP in Linked Data

2010-11-11 Thread David Booth
On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 07:23 +0100, Jiří Procházka wrote: [ . . . ] > I think it is flawed trying to enforce "URI == 1 thing" Exactly right. The "URI == 1 thing" notion is myth #1 in "Resource Identity and Semantic Extensions: Making Sense of Ambiguity": http://dbooth.org/2010/ambiguity/paper.htm

Re: Role of URI and HTTP in Linked Data

2010-11-11 Thread Nathan
David Booth wrote: On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 07:23 +0100, Jiří Procházka wrote: [ . . . ] I think it is flawed trying to enforce "URI == 1 thing" Exactly right. The "URI == 1 thing" notion is myth #1 in "Resource Identity and Semantic Extensions: Making Sense of Ambiguity": http://dbooth.org/2010

Re: Role of URI and HTTP in Linked Data

2010-11-11 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 11/11/10 9:00 AM, David Booth wrote: On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 07:23 +0100, Jiří Procházka wrote: [ . . . ] I think it is flawed trying to enforce "URI == 1 thing" Exactly right. The "URI == 1 thing" notion is myth #1 in "Resource Identity and Semantic Extensions: Making Sense of Ambiguity": ht

Re: Role of URI and HTTP in Linked Data

2010-11-11 Thread Nathan
Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 11/11/10 9:00 AM, David Booth wrote: On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 07:23 +0100, Jiří Procházka wrote: [ . . . ] I think it is flawed trying to enforce "URI == 1 thing" Exactly right. The "URI == 1 thing" notion is myth #1 in "Resource Identity and Semantic Extensions: Making

Re: Role of URI and HTTP in Linked Data

2010-11-11 Thread Robert Sanderson
I agree with Kingsley, an "identifier" that "identifies" more than one thing is a common name, not an identifier. To say that a URI can identify multiple things is as meaningless as saying that the string "Rob" identifies me. That is all. Carry on. Rob Sanderson On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:42 AM,

Re: Role of URI and HTTP in Linked Data

2010-11-11 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 11/11/10 10:00 AM, Nathan wrote: Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 11/11/10 9:00 AM, David Booth wrote: On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 07:23 +0100, Jiří Procházka wrote: [ . . . ] I think it is flawed trying to enforce "URI == 1 thing" Exactly right. The "URI == 1 thing" notion is myth #1 in "Resource Ide

Re: Role of URI and HTTP in Linked Data

2010-11-11 Thread Nathan
Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 11/11/10 10:00 AM, Nathan wrote: Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 11/11/10 9:00 AM, David Booth wrote: On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 07:23 +0100, Jiří Procházka wrote: [ . . . ] I think it is flawed trying to enforce "URI == 1 thing" Exactly right. The "URI == 1 thing" notion is

Re: Role of URI and HTTP in Linked Data

2010-11-11 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 11/11/10 11:34 AM, Nathan wrote: Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 11/11/10 10:00 AM, Nathan wrote: Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 11/11/10 9:00 AM, David Booth wrote: On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 07:23 +0100, Jiří Procházka wrote: [ . . . ] I think it is flawed trying to enforce "URI == 1 thing" Exactly ri

Re: Role of URI and HTTP in Linked Data

2010-11-11 Thread Pat Hayes
On Nov 11, 2010, at 8:00 AM, David Booth wrote: > On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 07:23 +0100, Jiří Procházka wrote: > [ . . . ] >> I think it is flawed trying to enforce "URI == 1 thing" > > Exactly right. The "URI == 1 thing" notion is myth #1 in "Resource > Identity and Semantic Extensions: Making Se

Re: Role of URI and HTTP in Linked Data

2010-11-11 Thread Pat Hayes
On Nov 11, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kingsley Idehen wrote: > On 11/11/10 9:00 AM, David Booth wrote: >> On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 07:23 +0100, Jiří Procházka wrote: >> [ . . . ] >>> I think it is flawed trying to enforce "URI == 1 thing" >> Exactly right. The "URI == 1 thing" notion is myth #1 in "Resource

Re: Role of URI and HTTP in Linked Data

2010-11-11 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 11/11/10 2:01 PM, Pat Hayes wrote: On Nov 11, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Kingsley Idehen wrote: On 11/11/10 9:00 AM, David Booth wrote: On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 07:23 +0100, Jiří Procházka wrote: [ . . . ] I think it is flawed trying to enforce "URI == 1 thing" Exactly right. The "URI == 1 thing" no

Re: Role of URI and HTTP in Linked Data

2010-11-17 Thread David Booth
On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 12:59 -0600, Pat Hayes wrote: > On Nov 11, 2010, at 8:00 AM, David Booth wrote: > > > On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 07:23 +0100, Jiří Procházka wrote: > > [ . . . ] > >> I think it is flawed trying to enforce "URI == 1 thing" > > > > Exactly right. The "URI == 1 thing" notion is m