Re: bbc-programmes.dyndns.org

On 22 Jun 2008, at 11:52, Simon Reinhardt wrote: I think it would be best to implement the mechanism described here: http://www.w3.org/TR/cooluris/#hashuri This would mean: is the thing is the RDF variant is the HTML variant is a generic, content-negotiated document; it serves the right va

Re: bbc-programmes.dyndns.org

Nicholas Humfrey wrote: The RDF views are not intended to expose exactly the same as the HTML views. The RDF views and URIs are much closer to how the data is modelled in the database. Note that when using content negotiation, in the definition of HTTP the two resources should represent the

Re: bbc-programmes.dyndns.org

Peter, On 22 Jun 2008, at 07:40, Peter Ansell wrote: However, if you are saying that RDF and OWL talk about more than web structures, you are absolutely right. That means the domain of the Semantic Web is a set that *subsumes* web pages, not a set *disjoint* from them. I think disjoint i

Re: bbc-programmes.dyndns.org

It seems to me that all of your angst centers around the question of which URIs can be resolved and result in RDF content (selections from your responses that I consider evidence are below). Essentially, you are saying don't use unless there's some RDF at the address in between the <>.

Re: bbc-programmes.dyndns.org

2008/6/22 Alan Ruttenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Jun 21, 2008, at 11:52 PM, Peter Ansell wrote: Not if you type it with xsd:anyURI... >>> >>> The you are saying the page is an xsd:anyURI, not a web page. >> >> You aren't saying that all RDF Resource (non-literals) are web pages >> t

Re: bbc-programmes.dyndns.org

On Jun 21, 2008, at 11:52 PM, Peter Ansell wrote: Not if you type it with xsd:anyURI... The you are saying the page is an xsd:anyURI, not a web page. You aren't saying that all RDF Resource (non-literals) are web pages though. So why is saying that it is an RDF Resource supposed to indicate

Re: bbc-programmes.dyndns.org

2008/6/22 Alan Ruttenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Jun 21, 2008, at 10:42 PM, Peter Ansell wrote: > >> 2008/6/22 Alan Ruttenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> >>> The target of foaf:page is a thing, a web page. >>> >>> If you write a literal string, you are saying the foaf page is that >>> string. >

Re: bbc-programmes.dyndns.org

On Jun 21, 2008, at 10:42 PM, Peter Ansell wrote: 2008/6/22 Alan Ruttenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: The target of foaf:page is a thing, a web page. If you write a literal string, you are saying the foaf page is that string. That's not what you want to say. Not if you type it with xsd:anyUR

Re: bbc-programmes.dyndns.org

2008/6/22 Alan Ruttenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The target of foaf:page is a thing, a web page. > > If you write a literal string, you are saying the foaf page is that string. > That's not what you want to say. Not if you type it with xsd:anyURI... Is there no separation allowed between the web

Re: bbc-programmes.dyndns.org

The target of foaf:page is a thing, a web page. If you write a literal string, you are saying the foaf page is that string. That's not what you want to say. The web page is (the thing that the URI denotes) not "http://www.bbc.co.uk/progra

Re: bbc-programmes.dyndns.org

2008/6/22 Richard Cyganiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 21 Jun 2008, at 23:41, Peter Ansell wrote: >> >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00b07kw.html >> >> Note that in the above notation the page is an actual URL string and >> not an RDF resource which is intended because the person already has >>

Re: bbc-programmes.dyndns.org

The range is foaf:Document. The domain is owl:Thing. However, a web page is perfectly fine foaf:Document, different from the thing that it is about, no I concur with Richard about not putting a literal - rather: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/ b00b07kw.html"> -Alan On Jun 21, 200

Re: bbc-programmes.dyndns.org

On 21 Jun 2008, at 23:41, Peter Ansell wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00b07kw.html Note that in the above notation the page is an actual URL string and not an RDF resource which is intended because the person already has the semantic resource and just wants to get to the human readable

Re: bbc-programmes.dyndns.org

2008/6/22 Richard Cyganiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Nicholas, > > I think it would be best to implement the mechanism described here: > http://www.w3.org/TR/cooluris/#hashuri > > This would mean: > is the thing > is the RDF variant > is the HTML variant > is a generic, content-negotiated docum

RE: bbc-programmes.dyndns.org

Your suggested implementation looks excellent, and will work well for us. I have made some changes to the apache configuration for bbc-programmes.dyndns.org, so it now behaves like this. Although I still need to sort out the Content-Location and Vary: Accept headers. The RDF views are not

Re: bbc-programmes.dyndns.org

e that the resource is subject to content negotiation; otherwise caches can become confused A triple " foaf:primaryTopic " would be very helpful for RDF browsers. Best, Richard On 20 Jun 2008, at 15:16, Nicholas Humfrey wrote: hello, I am trying to get the work w

Re: bbc-programmes.dyndns.org

Nicholas Humfrey wrote: hello, I am trying to get the work we did on: http://bbc-programmes.dyndns.org/ live on bbc.co.uk. Does anyone think that there anything that needs changed/fixed before it does go live? At the moment we just have RDF/XML views for Brands/Series/Episodes and Versions

Re: bbc-programmes.dyndns.org

Hello! >> I am trying to get the work we did on: >> http://bbc-programmes.dyndns.org/ >> live on bbc.co.uk. > > Excellent - really looking forward to it being part of the main site :) > >> When asking for RDF here: >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00

Re: bbc-programmes.dyndns.org

On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 15:16 +0100, Nicholas Humfrey wrote: > hello, > > I am trying to get the work we did on: > http://bbc-programmes.dyndns.org/ > live on bbc.co.uk. Excellent - really looking forward to it being part of the main site :) > When asking for RDF here: >

bbc-programmes.dyndns.org

hello, I am trying to get the work we did on: http://bbc-programmes.dyndns.org/ live on bbc.co.uk. Does anyone think that there anything that needs changed/fixed before it does go live? At the moment we just have RDF/XML views for Brands/Series/Episodes and Versions. But plan to is to also