Re: best practice RDF in HTML

2012-06-13 Thread Martin Hepp
We discourage the use of large RDF/XML dump files in the context of GoodRelations, since they are a perfect entry for Denial-of-Service attacks. Also, properly deploying RDF/XML resources on production systems is often difficult in an enterprise context. Even supporting the rdf/xml media type ca

Re: best practice RDF in HTML

2012-06-13 Thread Sebastian Hellmann
Dear Martynas, the parallel way has some disadvantages in a dynamic context, so I was asking what the latest best practice was to embed RDF in HTML. Having a companion or separate RDF file is definitely suitable for most of the use cases, but not always (e.g. in the case of an annotation web se

Re: best practice RDF in HTML

2012-06-13 Thread Martynas Jusevičius
Hey Sebastian, can't you simply use ? It's not embedding per se, but it's one of the patterns. More info here: http://linkeddatabook.com/editions/1.0/#htoc66 (section "Making RDF Discoverable from HTML") Martynas graphity.org On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Sebastian Hellmann wrote: > Dear Ma

Re: best practice RDF in HTML

2012-06-12 Thread Martin Hepp
Hi all: First, a few arguments in favor of using invisible data content in RDFa are in [1]. Also note our two tools [2] and [3] that can generate RDFa snippets from other RDF syntaxes with ease, so you can e.g. model your data structures in nice Turtle and then derive the RDFa patterns automati

Re: best practice RDF in HTML

2012-06-12 Thread Barry Norton
thML for people who do math, MODS for people who keep track of written stuff. <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.rustprivacy.org/FunForLibrarians.pdf">http://www.rustprivacy.org/FunForLibrarians.pdf</a> ____ From: John Erickson<olyerick...@gmail.co

Re: best practice RDF in HTML

2012-06-12 Thread Sebastian Hellmann
Dear Mark, my main concerns are: 1. What are the best practices to include invisible RDFa in an HTML document. I think Keith answered that. Maybe at the end of the body would be the most unobtrusive way. The same question was raised here: http://answers.semanticweb.com/questions/10161/is-visua

Re: best practice RDF in HTML

2012-06-12 Thread Mark Birbeck
Hi Sebastian, It's not clear to me whether you are saying that you don't want to use RDFa because: * you don't like it, or; * you think that it needs to have some user-oriented manifestation. There is no requirement that the RDFa in a document is displayed to the user in any way, or that the tr

Re: best practice RDF in HTML

2012-06-12 Thread John Erickson
DS for people > who keep track of written stuff. > http://www.rustprivacy.org/FunForLibrarians.pdf > > > > From: John Erickson > To: Sebastian Hellmann > Cc: public-lod ; semantic-web > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 9:32 AM > Subject: Re: be

Re: best practice RDF in HTML

2012-06-12 Thread Gannon Dick
rustprivacy.org/FunForLibrarians.pdf From: John Erickson To: Sebastian Hellmann Cc: public-lod ; semantic-web Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 9:32 AM Subject: Re: best practice RDF in HTML Sebastian, is the requirement that the RDF not be *integrated* with the

Re: best practice RDF in HTML

2012-06-12 Thread Stéphane Corlosquet
Sebastian, On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Sebastian Hellmann < hellm...@informatik.uni-leipzig.de> wrote: > Dear list, > What are the best practice to include a set of RDF triples in HTML. > *Please note*: I am not looking for the RDFa way to include triples. I > just want to add a set of tripl

Re: best practice RDF in HTML

2012-06-12 Thread Sebastian Hellmann
Dear John, I know that linking would be the clean solution, but sometimes this is difficult. The HTML gets send around by web services orchestrated by a CMS. It would be difficult to create temporary links to include in the HTML, e.g. you would have to set a time to life and do extra access au

Re: best practice RDF in HTML

2012-06-12 Thread John Erickson
Sebastian, is the requirement that the RDF not be *integrated* with the content of the page --- in other words, you just want to embed a "dump" of some RDF? Why not link to a RDF or TTL file? On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Sebastian Hellmann wrote: > Dear list, > What are the best practice to

best practice RDF in HTML

2012-06-12 Thread Sebastian Hellmann
Dear list, What are the best practice to include a set of RDF triples in HTML. *Please note*: I am not looking for the RDFa way to include triples. I just want to add a set of triples somewhere in an HTML document. They are not supposed to show up like "Wikinomics", "Don Tapscott" in the follo