Re: how to consume linked data

2009-10-10 Thread rick
Kingsley All: OK, it took a few weeks to put my thoughts together, but I think you'll enjoy reading this new post called Linked Data: Interpretants and Interpretation. http://phaneron.rickmurphy.org/?p=36 See below for additional comments. Kingsley Idehen wrote: rick wrote: Danny All:

Re: how to consume linked data

2009-09-27 Thread John Graybeal
I find this answer valuable, but unsatisfying. To me this is the fundamental weak spot in the whole chain of semantic web/linked data. I do appreciate the tremendous flexibility, generality, simplicity, novelty, and cool factor in the semantic web/linked data frameworks. But having done

Re: how to consume linked data

2009-09-27 Thread Adrian Walker
Hi Kjetil -- You wrote... *I think there is a critical piece of technology that is missing in our arsenal, namely a (free software) programming stack that makes a large group of developers, who are likely to have little prior understanding of semweb, to go yeah, I can do that.* How about being

Re: how to consume linked data

2009-09-26 Thread Olaf Hartig
Hey Danny, On Friday 25 September 2009 22:51:37 Danny Ayers wrote: 2009/9/25 Juan Sequeda juanfeder...@gmail.com: Linked Data is out there. Now it's time to develop smart (personalized) software agents to consume the data and give it back to humans. I don't disagree, but I do think the

Re: how to consume linked data

2009-09-25 Thread Graham Klyne
Dan Brickley wrote: This doc-typing idiom never got heavily used in FOAF, beyond the type PersonalProfileDocument, which FOAF defines. Mostly we just linked FOAF files together (initially with seeAlso and IFPs, lately using URIs more explicitly). I think there are many other reasons why

Re: how to consume linked data

2009-09-25 Thread Danny Ayers
Many thanks for responses, stuff to think about. Yihong got to /root of my question, ...miss the main purpose why we want to have data linked in the first place why are places like itsy, youtube and redtube (yup, pr0n still lives) more compelling, given what we know? people *are* getting the

Re: how to consume linked data

2009-09-25 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
On Friday 25. September 2009 10:15:34 you wrote: sorry if I sound negative, I reckon the semweb is a done deal now, the many-eyeballs arrived. Thanks for asking the right questions, Danny, I believe it is critical for the success that someone does! but - where should we take it? What I'd

Re: how to consume linked data

2009-09-25 Thread Juan Sequeda
Linked Data is out there. Now it's time to develop smart (personalized) software agents to consume the data and give it back to humans. try also using SQUIN (www.squin.org) Juan Sequeda, Ph.D Student Dept. of Computer Sciences The University of Texas at Austin www.juansequeda.com

Re: how to consume linked data

2009-09-25 Thread Danny Ayers
2009/9/25 Kjetil Kjernsmo kje...@kjernsmo.net: On Friday 25. September 2009 10:15:34 you wrote: sorry if I sound negative, I reckon the semweb is a done deal now, the many-eyeballs arrived. Thanks for asking the right questions, Danny, I believe it is critical for the success that someone

Re: how to consume linked data

2009-09-25 Thread Danny Ayers
2009/9/25 Juan Sequeda juanfeder...@gmail.com: Linked Data is out there. Now it's time to develop smart (personalized) software agents to consume the data and give it back to humans. I don't disagree, but I do think the necessary agents aren't smart, just stupid bots (aka Web services a la

Re: how to consume linked data

2009-09-25 Thread Danny Ayers
Olaf, comments? 2009/9/25 Leo Sauermann leo.sauerm...@dfki.de: Uh, I thought the answer to danny's question is semwebclient by Olaf Hartig and others. http://www4.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/bizer/ng4j/semwebclient/ In general, I thought that Olaf Hartig would be the first contact for such

Re: how to consume linked data

2009-09-25 Thread Toby Inkster
On 25 Sep 2009, at 07:41, Graham Klyne wrote: Interesting... I'm doing work at the moment with CIDOC-CRM (http:// cidoc.ics.forth.gr/) and its expression in OWL (http:// www8.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/IMMD8/Services/cidoc-crm/ versions.html). Have you seen Simon Reinhardt's recent OWL2

Re: how to consume linked data

2009-09-24 Thread rick
Danny All: Of course there's been a lot of work on this subject over the years. You can find one nice piece on analogical reasoning here [1]. But for linked data to become useful it's important to refine our understanding of web architecture beginning with the language of resources. I'm

Re: how to consume linked data

2009-09-24 Thread Kingsley Idehen
Danny Ayers wrote: The human reading online texts has a fair idea of what is and what isn't relevant, but how does this work for the Web of data? Should we have tools to just suck in any nearby triples, drop them into a model, assume that there's enough space for the irrelevant stuff, filter