RE: [BIONT-DSE] Clinical Observations Interoperability Telcon September 11th, Tuesday 11:00am - 12:00pm US EDT

2007-09-10 Thread Kashyap, Vipul
The latest use case description is available at: http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLS/OntologyTaskForce/BIONTDSEDCM?action=AttachFile&do= get&target=Eligibility-EMR+Use+Case_Draft+%232_Richesson_9-10-07.doc ---Vipul From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTE

Re: NCBI Resource Locator

2007-09-10 Thread Mark Wilkinson
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:30:27 -0700, Alan Ruttenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Probably worth finding out who is responsible and asking whether there is any intention that is be used. The first time I recall this being discussed was on(this)-list between me, Alan and Larry Hunter... in my

Re: NCBI Resource Locator

2007-09-10 Thread Alan Ruttenberg
Their first example is missing the verb, although they state that the verb is optional. http://view.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12345 So apparently you can also write *http://view.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/get/12345* ** However, it turns out that this is translated into http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/si

RE: NCBI Resource Locator

2007-09-10 Thread Eric Neumann
Jonathan, When did the paper come out that has the reference to this resource locator? Eric -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Jonathan Rees Sent: Mon 9/10/2007 5:00 PM To: public-semweb-lifesci hcls Subject: NCBI Resource Locator "The NCBI Resource Locator provi

NCBI Resource Locator

2007-09-10 Thread Jonathan Rees
"The NCBI Resource Locator provides stable, uniform addressing for NCBI content, making it easy to link to individual records. Some NCBI resources also provide services (like search) through these URLs." http://view.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/ Looks like a gift. Makes a lie of my assertion that ther

[BIONT-DSE] Clinical Observations Interoperability Telcon September 11th, Tuesday 11:00am - 12:00pm US EDT

2007-09-10 Thread Kashyap, Vipul
Clinical Observations Interoperability Telcon http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLS/OntologyTaskForce/BIONTDSEDCM Date and Time: Spetember 11th, Tuesday 11:00am - 12:00pm EDT Agenda Discussion and Finalization of Use Case Telcon Details: Phone +1 617 761 6200, conference 24668 ("BIONT

RE: One ontology schema - heterogeneous instance bases

2007-09-10 Thread Michel_Dumontier
> Can't speak for BioPAX, but I can say that for me one problem with DC > is that it's RDF(S), so I can't use the properties in my OWL > restrictions etc! > > There are some OWL versions (Protege even allows you to import one), > but I don't know if that is a good idea, as far as I can see thi

Re: One ontology schema - heterogeneous instance bases

2007-09-10 Thread Eric Jain
Andrea Splendiani wrote: This is not the point. The idea is that a user of a URIs should accept a commitment to a shared conceptualizazion. And strictly speaking... information such as authors don't need to be "in the ontology"... meaning... are we going to define classes in the real world dep

Re: One ontology schema - heterogeneous instance bases

2007-09-10 Thread Xiaoshu Wang
Eric Jain wrote: Xiaoshu Wang wrote: [...] Is its semantics any different from the "creator" defined by the dublin core? If there isn't any, (at least from what I can tell), then bioPAX SHOULD NOT reinvent the wheel to mint this term because, if every "ontology" developed its own author ter

Re: One ontology schema - heterogeneous instance bases

2007-09-10 Thread Andrea Splendiani
Il giorno 10/set/07, alle ore 13:48, Xiaoshu Wang ha scritto: Andrea Splendiani wrote: The reason, I guess, that "biopax:AUTHORS", is developed is because the bioPAX people wants it to be a "format" rather making it a knowledge. No... just DC was not so widespread and known when biopax begun,

Re: One ontology schema - heterogeneous instance bases

2007-09-10 Thread Andrea Splendiani
This is not the point. The idea is that a user of a URIs should accept a commitment to a shared conceptualizazion. And strictly speaking... information such as authors don't need to be "in the ontology"... meaning... are we going to define classes in the real world depending on authors ? (h

Re: One ontology schema - heterogeneous instance bases

2007-09-10 Thread Eric Jain
Xiaoshu Wang wrote: [...] Is its semantics any different from the "creator" defined by the dublin core? If there isn't any, (at least from what I can tell), then bioPAX SHOULD NOT reinvent the wheel to mint this term because, if every "ontology" developed its own author term, then, there will

Re: One ontology schema - heterogeneous instance bases

2007-09-10 Thread Xiaoshu Wang
Andrea Splendiani wrote: The reason, I guess, that "biopax:AUTHORS", is developed is because the bioPAX people wants it to be a "format" rather making it a knowledge. No... just DC was not so widespread and known when biopax begun, I guess. Dublin Core starts at mid-90s. And bioPax at about 2

Re: One ontology schema - heterogeneous instance bases

2007-09-10 Thread Andrea Splendiani
The problem is not about what is data and what is metadata. The problem is that how you think will dictate how you design your artifact. In the case of data standard, it subsequently determines how much inter-operable your ontology is with others. Let's use a concrete term as example, the

Re: One ontology schema - heterogeneous instance bases

2007-09-10 Thread Xiaoshu Wang
Andrea Splendiani wrote: Using RDF as an "exchange format" is just outright wrong. How do you decide if an RDF document is in BioPAX format or not? I don't know how active BioPAX is now (their website shows the last conference call was more than two years ago). But such line of thought will d

RE: [BIONT-DSE] Clinical Observations Interoperability Telcon September 11th, Tuesday 11:00am - 12:00pm US EDT

2007-09-10 Thread Andersson, Bo H
Dear Rachel and Landen, Following up from the Clinical Observations Interoperability Telcon two weeks ago, I do think your presentations where very interesting. From my perspective working in early clinical development within AstraZeneca I do think

Re: One ontology schema - heterogeneous instance bases

2007-09-10 Thread Andrea Splendiani
Using RDF as an "exchange format" is just outright wrong. How do you decide if an RDF document is in BioPAX format or not? I don't know how active BioPAX is now (their website shows the last conference call was more than two years ago). But such line of thought will doom (and have perhaps

Re: One ontology schema - heterogeneous instance bases

2007-09-10 Thread Gary Bader
Hi, BioPAX is very active. The proposal for the next level of BioPAX was sent out to the biopax-discuss mailing list last week and is open for discussion. Please join the biopax-discuss list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you are interested. The biopaxwiki.org wiki has current information about

new release of FLORA-2

2007-09-10 Thread Michael Kifer
We are happy to announce a new release of FLORA-2, version 0.95 (Androcymbium). This release has a wealth of new features and enhancements. The most important changes with respect to the previous release are documented in http://flora.sourceforge.net/release_notes.html FLORA-2 is an advanced