Re: Updated Invitation: HCLS - all @ Tue 2012-10-02 11:00 - 12:00 (public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org)

2012-10-02 Thread Michel Dumontier
Minutes for this meeting are available at: http://www.w3.org/2012/10/02-hcls-minutes.html m. On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Health Care Life Sciences wrote: > This event has been changed. > more details > ยป

RE: An HL7 RIM navigation language based on SPARQL?

2012-10-02 Thread Mead, Charlie (NIH/NCI) [C]
The RIM is not the whole story. The MIF is. From: Michael Miller [michael.mil...@systemsbiology.org] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 2:05 PM To: peter.hend...@kp.org; m...@jerven.eu Cc: e...@w3.org; helena.d...@deri.org; kerstin.l.forsb...@gmail.com; linmd

RE: An HL7 RIM navigation language based on SPARQL?

2012-10-02 Thread Michael Miller
hi peter, interesting question and discussion. i definitely agree with david's take on the question that the physicians should have a nice GUI to separate them from the details. RIM is modeled with UML (tho it is somewhat odd that viseo is used to visualize the models). there is an OMG spec

RE: An HL7 RIM navigation language based on SPARQL?

2012-10-02 Thread Mead, Charlie (NIH/NCI) [C]
A visual representation of the underlying RIM/MIF ontology -- and probably an equivalent SNOMED ontology -- could be helpful, however not as a "special" language, but rather as a more friendly view of SPARQL constructs. So, I would think that a formal RIMQL would be a dead end unless it was a pr

Re: An HL7 RIM navigation language based on SPARQL?

2012-10-02 Thread David Booth
On Tue, 2012-10-02 at 19:37 +0200, Jerven Bolleman wrote: > Is SPARQL too difficult to teach to clinicians? My opinion: - Yes. Clinicians should have a GUI with interactive faceted browser / query builder. ANY query language would be too difficult to teach clinicians who are not IT specialist

Re: An HL7 RIM navigation language based on SPARQL?

2012-10-02 Thread Jerven Bolleman
Hi All, Is SPARQL to difficult to teach to clinicians? I personally think its not. What is difficult to explain is the data model (especially a HL7 compatible one.) Explaining a simple select once they understand triples is easy. I love_my work = simple sentence = subject predicate object < htt

HL7 out of cycle RIMBAA meeting in Pleasanton CA Nov 20

2012-10-02 Thread Peter . Hendler
We are only in the planning stages but we will likely have an HL7 RIMBAA (RIM Based Application Architecture) meeting in Pleasanton CA (Kaiser IT campus) on Nov 20th. RIMBAA are the RIM software implementers group. We have almost exclusively had only Object Oriented people there. It might real

An HL7 RIM navigation language based on SPARQL?

2012-10-02 Thread Peter . Hendler
Mainly for Charlie and Eric but anyone who knows RIM. There has been talk off and on for ever about a Domain Specific Language for navigating RIM like graphs of data. Seems to me SPARQL can already do that. But SPARQL is too much to teach clinicians. So you could have a RIM specific DSL that

Re: Doodle poll (including Asia) for Expression RDF Note

2012-10-02 Thread M. Scott Marshall
The Doodle poll winner is Tues Oct. 9 11AM ET / 5PM CET. Eric - Do you know if we can use Zakim (do we still have that timeslot from COI)? Cheers, Scott On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 7:46 PM, M. Scott Marshall wrote: > Hi Chisato, All, > > I've made a doodle poll to set a date for our next Expression