Re: linking a symbol with a dataset

2014-12-10 Thread Pat Hayes
On Dec 11, 2014, at 12:11 AM, Vladimir Mironov wrote: > Hi, > > I'm not quite sure that any of the constituents of a triple is a member of > the data set (the triple certainly is). Neither the triples nor their components are *members* of the dataset. They might be in some sense 'part of' o

Re: linking a symbol with a dataset

2014-12-10 Thread Vladimir Mironov
Hi, I'm not quite sure that any of the constituents of a triple is a member of the data set (the triple certainly is). Let me give a parable. "Mick Jagger is part of the Rolling Stones. Mick's thumb is part of Mick Jagger." Is Mick's thumb part of the Rolling Stones? Cheers On 9 December 2014 at

Re: Minutes of last week's (Dec 2) HL7 ITS RDF Subgroup / W3C HCLS COI call -- Review of FHIR ontology approaches (cont.)

2014-12-10 Thread Lloyd McKenzie
Hi Vipul, To me, your first two points go together. The only reason to do an RDF representation is to support implementations that want to make use of semantic web technologies for inference purposes. I wouldn't describe either as requirements for the syntax though. A requirement would be a par

Summary of Tue Dec 9 HL7 ITS RDF Subgroup / W3C HCLS COI call -- Review of FHIR ontology approaches (cont.)

2014-12-10 Thread David Booth
On yesterday's teleconference Claude Nanjo reviewed the FHIR ontology approach that he developed: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/10QQaOTuLxwqdPVW4sWncSiSRNhqNrpn3RAbdmPmrihs/edit#slide=id.p4 . One of the main discussion points was about how to model FHIR's modifying extensions, which hav

Re: linking a symbol with a dataset

2014-12-10 Thread Anders Riutta
The property "hasPart" for schema:Dataset [1] doesn't have the problem with disjoint type, as long as you consider a protein a "CreativeWork". Anders Riutta [1] http://schema.org/Dataset - Original Message - > From: snachimu...@mmm.com > To: "Vladimir Mironov" > Cc: "Michel Dumontier"

RE: Minutes of last week's (Dec 2) HL7 ITS RDF Subgroup / W3C HCLS COI call -- Review of FHIR ontology approaches (cont.)

2014-12-10 Thread Vipul Kashyap
Good list, Lloyd. Would like to suggest some more additions (apologies if these have already been suggested). · Clearly articulate the value of the new RDF/RDFS/OWL representation over the current XML/JSON representation · Enablement of OWL/RDFS inference – so we could identi

Re: linking a symbol with a dataset

2014-12-10 Thread snachimuthu
We use "has member" to relate arbitrary groups and their members. Our implementation is for binary relationships in a relational database, and so this should work for RDF too. Senthil. Senthil K. Nachimuthu, MD, PhD | Medical Informaticist 3M Health Information Systems, Inc. 575 W Murray Blvd,

Re: Minutes of last week's (Dec 2) HL7 ITS RDF Subgroup / W3C HCLS COI call -- Review of FHIR ontology approaches (cont.)

2014-12-10 Thread snachimuthu
Question - are we talking about a structual ontology (analogous to various structural codesystems/tables like ActStatus or Acknowledgment in v2/v3), or a domain ontology such as Administrative Sex or one derived from domain-specific codesystems such as RxNorm/LOINC/SNOMED CT? If it's a structur