Re: HCLS Dataset Description - Call for Implementations

2016-02-16 Thread Michel Dumontier
Colleagues, Please join me at 8am Pacific on Wednesday February 17, 2016 to discuss your implementation of the HCLS dataset descriptions. Join the call: https://www.uberconference.com/micheldumontier Optional dial in number: 716-293-8697 PIN: 88433 Thanks! m. Michel Dumontier, PhD Associate

Re: Media type for FHIR RDF in Turtle

2016-02-16 Thread Grahame Grieve
but that is not the only way to get to a resource. There are many ways you might get to something that might be a resource. A file, for instance. or an attachment. Media types are used more widely than just in http headers Grahame On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 11:35 AM, James G. Boram Kim wrote: > Y

Re: Media type for FHIR RDF in Turtle

2016-02-16 Thread Grahame Grieve
umm, there's no way to tell whether a URI represents a FHIR resource Grahame On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 11:26 AM, James G. Boram Kim wrote: > Hello all, > > Even though I don't have enough knowledge about FHIR RDF, I think sticking > with the general media type is a better way than inventing some

Re: Media type for FHIR RDF in Turtle

2016-02-16 Thread Grahame Grieve
hi David So there's a few issues. The first is, given some rdf, is the only way to find out whether it represents something worth treating as a FHIR resource to actually parse it, and search it for FHIR resources? You seem to think that the answer is yes The second is, given some resources that d

Re: Media type for FHIR RDF in Turtle

2016-02-16 Thread Grahame Grieve
I'm not familiar with the use of FOAF in this way - what does request URI mean, where does it appear, , what's primary topic, etc? thanks Grahame On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 9:07 AM, Martynas Jusevičius wrote: > I think it is better to rely on explicit relationships (properties) > than on RDF type

Re: Media type for FHIR RDF in Turtle

2016-02-16 Thread Martynas Jusevičius
I think it is better to rely on explicit relationships (properties) than on RDF types. E.g. if you dereference a document about allergy intolerance, then it should explicitly say: foaf:primaryTopic . a fhir:AllergyInterance . That way you can always get hold of your (FHIR) resource using

Re: Media type for FHIR RDF in Turtle

2016-02-16 Thread David Booth
However, one thing the RDF does not do: it does not tell you the boundary of what is included in a document. If a FHIR resource is represented in RDF, there is nothing explicit in it to indicate that the document contains all and only the RDF triples for that FHIR resource. This is a little di

Re: Media type for FHIR RDF in Turtle

2016-02-16 Thread Grahame Grieve
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 6:27 AM, Martynas Jusevičius wrote: > In what way can a piece of Turtle be a resource? > it represents a statement of the content of a fhir resource btw, I am presently using 'text/turtle; x-dialect=fhir', but I have no particular feeling for this Grahame > > With RD

Re: Media type for FHIR RDF in Turtle

2016-02-16 Thread Martynas Jusevičius
In what way can a piece of Turtle be a resource? With RDF, you retrieve it and make rules that apply to the vocabularies used in it (properties, types etc). On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 8:10 PM, Grahame Grieve wrote: > So how do you know that a piece of turtle is a resource? The theory of a > restful

Re: Media type for FHIR RDF in Turtle

2016-02-16 Thread Grahame Grieve
So how do you know that a piece of turtle is a resource? The theory of a restful interface is that you make rules that apply to a mime type, but evidently not in the case of rdf... Grahame On Wednesday, 17 February 2016, David Booth wrote: > Hi Grahame, > > On today's call > http://www.w3.org/2

Media type for FHIR RDF in Turtle

2016-02-16 Thread David Booth
Hi Grahame, On today's call http://www.w3.org/2016/02/16-hcls-minutes.html#action02 we discussed what media type we should use for FHIR RDF serialized in Turtle. The existing (generic) Turtle media type is text/turtle . The consensus is that we should stick with that for FHIR in Turtle. Do y

HL7/W3C Agenda Tue Feb 16 (today): FHIR RDF draft on github

2016-02-16 Thread David Booth
Today's agenda will include FHIR RDF coordination about deliverables: - Modify the FHIR spec build process to produce RDF artifacts -- Who and how? https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues/7 - Downloadable FHIR ontology - Who maintains it and how? https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/is